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- From: jwh@citi.umich.edu (Jim Howe)
- Subject: Re: SOCIAL SECURITY: perpetual pain and problems...
- Message-ID: <T76-DC=@engin.umich.edu>
- Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 09:17:13 EDT
- Organization: IFS Project, University of Michigan
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- Keywords: social security
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- In article <markts.718918490@mcl>, markts@mcl.ucsb.edu (mark t schmidt) writes:
- |>
- |> >> anyone who can make money is smart enough to manage that money
- |> >> better than the government. Unfortunately that means getting rid
- |> >> of social security. Any ideas?
- |>
- |> >Change Social Security to a mandatory 401k system. The "401k"
- |> >part will mean that the money is actually invested in the person's
- |> >name, without the government touching it. The "mandatory" part
- |> >is for political reasons because the public wants a Social Security
- |> >system (and any attempt for an optional system will be labled as cutting
- |> >Social Security).
- |> >Real savings & investment for retirement. What a radical concept. :-)
- |>
- |> Russ, this sounds like a solid idea, but how would the transition from
- |> the current system to a 401k investment system take place? Somehow
- |> the current level of spending on social security can not be allowed
- |> to nosedive, yet people still in the midst of their earning years
- |> should be allowed to manage a portion of their long-term savings.
- |>
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- At the present FICA rate, SS is running a surplus. This means that after
- paying current retirees there is excess. Of course, this excess is meant
- to help fund the future liability for current employees. What we should
- do, instead of letting the government 'invest' the surplus in Federal
- Government psuedo-bonds, is refund the excess to the taxpayers for
- investment in a qualified retirement plan. Since current taxpayers will
- be paying less into the current system, the amount of 'benefit' received
- when they retire will also be less. However, the amount earned on the
- invested refunds should more than compensate for the reduced government
- benefit. The goal should be to continually lower the amount needed
- to pay current (and soon to be) retirees, until the system can be
- shutdown and completely replaced by the individuals own retirement
- account.
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