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- From: rja14@cl.cam.ac.uk (Ross Anderson)
- Subject: Re: DES generates A_(2^64)?
- Message-ID: <1992Oct16.094217.6932@infodev.cam.ac.uk>
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- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 09:42:17 GMT
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- In <PHR.92Oct15174530@napa.telebit.com>, phr@telebit.com (Paul Rubin) writes:
-
- Michael Wiener and I submitted a paper to Crypto '92 entitled "DES is not
- a Group". The principal argument is as follows.
-
- Consider the closure of DES encryptions under composition. Our claim is
- that this group must include permutations which are not equivalent to DES
- encryption with any key. Each of the n_i collected above must divide
- the order of the group. Compute n = lcm( n_i, i=1..k ). If n > 2^56 then
- the group must be larger than the set of DES encryptions.
-
- ...
-
- I heard that someone in Eastern Germany recently proved a stronger
- result, that DES generates the alternating group on 2^64 letters.
- This had been conjectured a while ago, though I don't know what the
- evidence for it was. Anyone know more about this?
-
- Here is an abstract of the relevant paper:
-
- {\bf \noindent R Wernsdorf,}{\em ~Eurocrypt 92\\}
- {\bf `The One-round Functions of DES Generate the Alternating Group'}
-
- Each round of DES consists of $2^{48}$ permutations. The group which they
- generate is shown to be 3-transitive, and if this were not equal to
- $A_{2^{64}}$, then it would have a unique minimal normal subgroup which is
- Abelian or simple. The former is excluded by displaying a permutation with
- too many fixed points, and the latter by the classification theory of
- simple groups.
-
- With luck we'll have the first issue of `Computer and Communications Security
- Abstracts' out shortly: it will contain abstracts like this of current
- research papers.
-
- Ross Anderson
-
-