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- From: eck@cs.uoregon.edu (Eck Doerry)
- Subject: Re: Drivetrain Vibration
- Message-ID: <1992Oct9.193358.10659@cs.uoregon.edu>
- Sender: news@cs.uoregon.edu (Netnews Owner)
- Organization: University of Oregon
- References: <1992Oct9.140149.10604@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>
- Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:33:58 GMT
- Lines: 64
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- In article <1992Oct9.140149.10604@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>,
- jimo@navaho.uucp (25656-o'keefe) writes:
- >
- >
- > Episode 3 of my drivetrain vibration saga.
- >
- > ** I'll spare everyone the gory details of what I've tried so far! **
-
- *** Lots of explaination deleted here****
- >
- > A possible clue::
- > The HELM shop manual indicates the "vibration on Acceleration" could be
- > due to "improper front joint alignment". I think the text is referring
- > to the alignment between the trans and the center support bearing. The
- > text say that this alignment can be corrected by "shimming the trans
- > mount". Unfortunately the manual does NOT say what the correct "front
- > joint alignment" should be. Assuming it should be straight on (0
- > angle), then the trans is actually too high in relation to the center
- > bearing support. I can't raise the center bearing or lower the
- > trans without modifying the trans mount bushing.
- >
- > Question:
- > How critical is this alignment? If it should be dead on, then should I
- > trim the trans bushing to lower the trans?
- >
- > ANY GM GURUs out there?
- >
- > Thanks in advance for your input...
- >
- >
-
- I've seen this a number of times on vehicles that have the long two-piece
- drive shafts. Some older Jeeps have two-piece front shafts and many pickup
- trucks (and vans, as you know) have them in the back. In my experience, the
- HELM manual is on the right track. Let me explain. If you play with it
- awhile, you'll notice that a u-joint *changes velocity* as it spins under
- ANY condition except a straight-on angle. The more the angle, the more the
- velocity change. It is critical for all u-joints in a drive shaft to
- undergo this change at the same time. That is, they must all be mounted at
- a) no angle at all or b) the same angle as all other u-joints in the shaft.
- Think about it like two people doing a three-legged race: works smoothly
- only if you're in perfect synch. Now, normally, this is pretty trivial to
- achieve with a one-piece shaft: the tranny and differential are pretty
- close to the same angle (often perfectly horizontal) and so the u-joint
- angles at the ends are the same. Simple geometry. But throw in another
- u-joint at the middle at you've got a much trickier equation. To be brief,
- here's what you need to work for:
- 1) Same operating angles for all u-joints. Usually this is achieved by
- shimming the center support up or down. Also, many transmission
- crossmembers allow for the insertion of shims between x-member and frame.
-
- 2) Linear u-joint alignment. I'd be inclined to say you've got this
- covered, since you say your second shaft does it too. But just check: if
- you're sighting down the drive-shaft end-on, are all the u-joints
- aligned?
-
- Check these items out, and I'm sure that you won't have to deal with the
- nasty vibration for long. BTW, this sort of thing is generally introduced
- when the factory suspension is modified in some way.
-
- Good luck
- Eck
-
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