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- From: saslpo@stevens.unx.sas.com (Len Olszewski)
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- Subject: Re: Semantics of "to be"
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- Date: 8 Oct 92 15:24:08 GMT
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- In article <1992Oct8.103255.1079@syma.sussex.ac.uk>, mapd1@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Nigel Ling) writes:
- |> In article <BvpDK2.2wF@unx.sas.com> sasafw@dobo.unx.sas.com (Fred Welden) writes:
- |> >
- |> >In article <16047@mindlink.bc.ca>, Alan_Barclay@mindlink.bc.ca (Alan Barclay) writes:
- |> >|"There was a cat on the table"
- |> >|
- |> >|vs.
- |> >|
- |> >|"The cat sprawled on the table."
- |> >|
- |> >|Notice that the first sentence is passive and the second, active. "Was" is
- |> >|an element in many passive constructions. For that reason alone, hunting and
- |> >|rewriting is a good idea. (P.S. could I write this paragraph without using
- |> >|"is?" :) )
- |> >
- |> >Just to pick a nit or two, the first sentence may suffer from vagueness
- |> >and the lack of a decent subject, but it does not use the passive
- |> >voice. Let's not confuse "passive" in the grammatical sense with mere
- |> >flabbiness of the prose. The sentence would be less flabby if it read
- |>
- |> Hmmm, so what exactly is passive voice then? Am I right in thinking it
- |> is a sentence without a subject?
- |>
- |> My only interest in the difference stems from the time I used to read
- |> and write science papers (yawn).
- |> Sometimes you would see things like:
- |>
- |> We performed the following experiment (active?)
- |>
- |> or
- |>
- |> The following experiment was performed (passive?)
- |>
- |> To me the 2nd sentence sounds horrible and is the sort of thing
- |> guaranteed to send you to sleep before the end of the abstract.
- |>
- |> Anyone who can give me a definition of passive?
- |>
- |> Nigel
-
- In grammar, voice indicates the relation of the subject to the action of
- the verb. When the verb is in the active voice, the subject acts; when
- it is in the passive voice, the subject is acted upon.
-
- Your delineation of the two sentences above as active and passive
- respectively was correct. You've got it, I'd say.
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