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- From: gwlester@cpu.com (Gerald W. Lester)
- Newsgroups: vmsnet.internals
- Subject: Re: DR bad, VAX PRO good
- Message-ID: <1992Sep4.135230.2305@cpu.com>
- Date: 4 Sep 92 13:52:30 GMT
- References: <01GO9M76948G94DQA0@MONMOUTH-etdl1.Army.MIL>,<1SEP199210172255@mrsvax.mis.arizona.edu> <1992Sep1.221944.12789@cpu.com>,<3SEP199210004588@mrsvax.mis.arizona.edu>
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- In article <3SEP199210004588@mrsvax.mis.arizona.edu>, jms@mrsvax.mis.arizona.edu (Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem) writes:
- >In article <1992Sep1.221944.12789@cpu.com>, gwlester@cpu.com writes...
- >>
- >> The problem that at least some of us have is that we don't have time to
- >>read all of sources of information. I have eliminate DR from my list due to
- >>the amount of material that I had to read to get new and useful information.
- >>
- >
- >Well, it's a tradeoff, isn't it? You can read nothing that ever comes to
- >you, and spend all your time running around re-inventing the wheel. Or,
- >you can do nothing but read all day long, have all of the answers, and no
- >time to do your job. I still claim that you can't be an effective and
- >useful system manager without reading DR. If all you do is kernel mode
- >programming, that's one thing. But who has a job description that narrow
- >these days?
-
- Joel, I think we must agree to disagree, since in my opion DR is a
- waste of trees and if it were sent via the inter net a waste of bandwidth.
-
- >
- >>P.S. - I have a Matco mug for pointing out to DR that VMS does *NOT* run on
- >> any of the PDP-11 series.
- >
- >It depends on whether you consider a VAX-11/780 a PDP-11. If you define a
- >PDP-11 as a system which runs PDP-11 code "native" (i.e., without software
- >emulators, as in the newer VAX systems), the VAX-11/780 is a fine PDP-11
- >which happens to run VMS. Also, since you can microcode it yourself, it
- >can run WPS-8 as well (and does).
-
- The PDP-11 I'm refering to was the PDP-11/84. Yets try not to make
- asses of ourself, *Digital* defines the PDP-11 series, not us. I guess under
- your definition (and with some interesting microcode) I could change a
- VAX-11/780 into a PDP-10! Of course with how you just defined a processor
- series, many of the new VAX models are not a VAX since they use software
- emulation to handle some of the instructions.
-
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