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- From: nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos)
- Subject: Re: Peter, do you even know how to READ? (Was: 3 docs in a 3-way).
- Message-ID: <nyikos.716579432@milo.math.scarolina.edu>
- Keywords: You expect me to mark my deletions? Dream on...
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- Organization: USC Department of Computer Science
- References: <nyikos.716076849@milo.math.scarolina.edu> <18novvINN6jc@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com> <nyikos.716335245@milo.math.scarolina.edu> <192brnINNpbo@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com>
- Date: 15 Sep 92 17:50:32 GMT
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- In <192brnINNpbo@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com> regard@sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard) writes:
-
- >In article <nyikos.716335245@milo.math.scarolina.edu> nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:
- >>In <18novvINN6jc@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com> regard@sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard) writes:
- >>
- >>What a grotesque distortion.
- >>Did you also read the part where I say you seem to
- >> have shown no signs of growing
- >>as a human being in the past 7 years? Your distortion reinforces this
- >>impression.
-
- >Peter,
-
- >Careful now, fella.
-
- >I have a copy of a posting of yours, not more than 2 months old, I believe,
- >where you state you had been on the net less than 7 days.
-
- Glad you saw it.
-
- >Now, unless you were *lying* (this is merely a clause in the sentence, not
- >an accusation, you understand -- I wouldn't dream of accusing you of such
- >a despicable thing....) you wouldn't have much experience to base the
- >statement above upon, now would you? You haven't been party to the large
- >amount of those 7 years to observe or not observe 'growing as a human being'
- >in any way, have you?
-
- No, but I have seen some repeats of posts and messages by you, by
- Bill Overpeck, if memory serves, when I was still in Wollongong.
- So I am not entirely clueless, even though I am a newbie.
-
- >But you couldn't be speaking through your *hat* again, now could you?
-
- Perish the thought. Besides Bill Overpeck's whole series of posts
- [if it wasn't Overpeck, substitute the correct name wherever you see his]
- there is the general overall impression that over 7 years, you must
- have been exposed to a lot of gut-wrenching stories, but your reaction
- to Will's seems to indicate that you drew the wrong lessons from them.
-
- >>>Kinda makes me *glad* you have decided I'm not on your list of 'compassionate'
- >>>people, because I wouldn't like the company, or the definition.
- >>
- >>I'm beginning to hatch a bit of speculation, not backed up yet by any solid
- >>facts, mind you, that just as Dennis Hall is alleged to be a fictional name
- >>of Steve Chaney, just so Adrienne Regard is a fictional name for
- >> drieux
- >>or vice versa.
-
- >drieux! Now *there's* company I would appreciate.
-
- >Yeah, do that, Peter. Cross drieux and I right off your list of 'people'.
- >That's the "compassionate" thing to do: make a whole list of excuses for
- >a fellow who swore to God or Allah that he would have killed a woman, but
- >by all means, disqualify drieux and I from the company of people because we
- >haven't done such 'excusable' things.....
-
- Wait a minute.
-
- Is it possible that you are NOT as thick-skinned as Bill Overpeck's posts
- indicated?
-
- One detail that sticks in my mind from that July series is how you
- behaved like a jerk in a letter "congratulating" him on the birth
- of one of his children. There were many other things that have faded
- in my memory, but they created the same overall impression.
-
- At any rate, if I have ever hurt your feelings in any way, I am very
- sorry.
-
- Back in Wollongong, I was planning to post something which included a
- personal message to you, including something like:
-
- "Anyone like you, who has been on a newsgroup like this, which deals with
- so many deeply felt convictions and raw emotions for 7 years, is obviously
- someone who can not only dish it out, but also take it. And I have a
- tremendous amount of respect for someone like that."
-
- ...and other well-meaning statements. But, being so new to the net, I
- showed the post to both Doug Holtsinger and Steve Chaney so they could
- give me some idea as to what the effect might be. Both advised me
- not to post it. Chaney even said, "If you post it, Adrienne will
- turn you into flaming horseflesh."
-
- And while waiting for their reply, I read Bill Overpeck's posts.
-
- And I didn't post it. And Bill Overpeck's posts, as well as a lot
- of your own more recent ones, have eroded a lot of that respect I
- was referring to above. But you still have ample opportunity to
- regain it. Never in my adult life have I ever written
- off anyone as hopeless.
-
- >You really haven't a clue how much damage you do yourself, do you, Peter?
-
- Well, according to Chaney, I avoided worse damage. But maybe he
- misjudged you. Having read more of his posts since then, I can see
- how he over-reacts to some things, although I do agree Humphrey still
- owes him an apology.
-
- >Note that question mark again.
-
- Duly noted, along with your comment about not wishing to accuse me of
- lying. Would that all pro-choicers were as careful with their words.
-
- May the [Lethal?] Force be with you!
-
- Peter Nyikos
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