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- From: nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos)
- Subject: Re: FOCA: And I quote.....
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- References: <nyikos.716067595@milo.math.scarolina.edu> <k6tn!_p.ray@netcom.com> <1992Sep11.144108.10600@menudo.uh.edu> <18qeapINNpvc@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com>
- Date: 15 Sep 92 14:22:56 GMT
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- In <18qeapINNpvc@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com> regard@sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard) writes:
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- >In article <1992Sep11.144108.10600@menudo.uh.edu> HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:
- >>[very premature baby survives and goes home after long time in hospital]
- >> Ray, are you in favor then of triage for all?
- >>... This can happen when there are too many casualties to
- >>treat (say after a battle, or a major urban disaster).
-
- >(Of course, this is exactly what *does* happen after a battle or a major
- >urban disaster, so it doesn't require anybody's 'approval'...)
- >>
- >> Somehow, I think this mind-set will meet with some resistance when you include
- >>money in the criteria.
-
- >I think, as we see the bulge of population known as the baby boom age, and
- >fail in their age, and begin to die, we will see a *lot* of weird criteria
- >in medicine. Those who have property that can be attached will be served.
- >Those who don't -- hmmmmm. As the wealth transfer from baby boomers to
- >doctors beings to take a bigger and bigger bite out of the next generation,
- >you'll see a different set of criteria emerge.
-
- >All of this has been happening over the past 40 years or so, true, but it's
- >the sheer number of the baby boomers that is going to bring this to the fore.
- >We simply cannot, as a people, afford $250,000 worth of medical care for
- >each and every old person to extend their lives by a few months. And before
- >anybody out there goes leaping upon me, please bear in mind that I'm older
- >than most of you...I'm no 18 year old kid to whom grey hair means 'ancient'.
- >I'm speaking instead of the skyrocketing cost of medical care that is a
- >demonstrable phenomenon in our society, and what I think will be happening
- >with it.
-
- >I recall the description of pneumonia as 'the old man's friend', by a
- >physician friend of mine. As technology advances, and we *can* extend lives,
- >we have to decide when and when not to do so. (We being very rhetorical
- >in this case. I don't think *I* have any business deciding for someone else,
- >obviously (-:).
-
- >Adrienne Regard
-
- Son of a gun! Adrienne CAN be sensible if she wants to be. [I've known this
- for some time, but this is the first real opportunity to say it on the net.]
-
- One factor she fails to mention. These problems are greatly exacerbated
- by the fact that in every year since Roe v. Wade the USA "fertility level"
- has been WELL below ZPG, making our population more and more top-heavy as
- years go by.
-
- I wonder if Adrienne would care to comment on what the effect on
- the "population pyramid" would be if abortion were, say, only permitted
- (1) in the "hard cases" of threat to the life of the mother, rape, and
- incest and (2) under my more generous conditions.
-
- Peter Nyikos
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