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- From: gordons@netcom.com (Gordon Storga)
- Subject: Re: Observations
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- Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 20:00:37 GMT
- Organization: Stay Awake Software
- References: <1992Aug31.145731.12606@advtech.uswest.com> <1992Sep2.205935.9428@coopsol.com> <Sep12.071229.20901@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
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- <Sep12.071229.20901@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> sa114984@longs.lance.colostate.edu (Steven Arnold) writes:
- ><1992Sep2.205935.9428@coopsol.com>, gordons@coopsol.com (Gordon Storga) writes:
- >|> <1992Aug31.145731.12606@advtech.uswest.com> stevens@eatdust (John Stevens) said:
- >|> >In article <a3andz+.ray@netcom.com> ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer) writes:
- >|> ...
- >|> >And everybody wants to impose their belief system on the rest of the
- >|> >country through the use of law.
- >|>
- >|> Please answer this simple question directly: If you come to me with a
- >|> problem and I say, "It's your decision, your choice", how does that
- >|> qualify as imposing my belief on you? I'm speaking in the context of
- >|> abortion, ok?
- >
- > If I told you I needed money and I wanted to rob a bank: what do you
- >think? And if you said, sure, go ahead, it's your decision -- you have, of course,
- >NOT imposed your beliefs on anyone. But if I went and robbed the bank, *I* would
- >certainly be imposing my beliefs on others, and that would be impermissable.
-
- Yeah? So?
-
- >Relating it to abortion, when a woman has an abortion she is taking the life of
- >her unborn child, and is therefore imposing her beliefs on her unborn child to
- >the point of killing the baby. This is a pretty serious level of imposition.
-
- There is no child or baby involved in an abortion, except those cases of
- an underage girl having an abortion. You can't impose beliefs on a fetus
- (as in make them obey or follow you belief system). You can *apply* your
- beliefs on a fetus, but then, so what?
-
- >|> Another question: In the above simple scenario, would it be better if you
- >|> came to me with a problem and I said, "You can *only* do such-and-such,
- >|> you have no other choice"? Which would you prefer, if it were you?
- >
- > It would certainly be better if you had advised me not to rob the bank;
-
- Don't go robbing any banks now Steve. Unless you are prepared to face the
- consequences.
-
- >or in the case of abortion, if you advised the woman not to destroy her child.
-
- No child to destroy. You analogy falls flat because you equate a fetus,
- *barely* the complexity of a brine shrimp, with a child.
-
- I was speaking of _personal_ decisions and choices. You are using an
- analogy where those decisions effect other people. This is an improper
- comparison.
-
-
- Gordon
- Pro-abortion, Pro-person, Pro-women's-rights and ex-boytoy of Susan, Muriel,
- Cathi, Nora, Jennifer, Sarah, Lynn, Diana (catwoman), and Diana (Sorceress),
- and married to a goddess among women, and proud of it.
- --
- The opinions expressed are my own, and not the beliefs or opinions
- of whatever company you think I work for. So there, thhhbbbt!
- Message to Kodak: Freedom for Dan Bredy.
-