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- From: beaver@castor.cs.psu.edu (Don Beaver)
- Subject: Re: Father Notification Reconsidered
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- References: <1992Sep8.014945.6036@nas.nasa.gov> <Bu8or2.2MK@cs.psu.edu> <1992Sep9.144423.29467@nas.nasa.gov>
- Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:36:22 GMT
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- In article <1992Sep9.144423.29467@nas.nasa.gov> dking@raul.nas.nasa.gov (Dan King) writes:
- >
- >db>In article <Bu8or2.2MK@cs.psu.edu> beaver@castor.cs.psu.edu (Don Beaver) writes:
- >dk>In article <1992Sep8.014945.6036@nas.nasa.gov> dking@raul.nas.nasa.gov (Dan King) writes:
- >
- >Spousal support is gender nuetral. Judges may grant it to the woman
- >more often than the man, but that is not a problem with the
- >legislation, but rather a problem with the way judges may or may
- >not handle each case.
-
- Gender neutral language permits a wide variety of gender-biased
- effects having nothing to do with the judicial system. Gender neutral
- language is often used to cover up specific gender-biased intent
- for political purposes.
-
- For example, a gender neutral custody law might award custody
- immediately to the parent who had had the child the longer;
- then any woman could file for custody an hour after birth and
- there would be no hope for the man, regardless of social bias
- or judicial bias. But it would be a gender neutral law.
-
-
-
- >A really couldn't care less about +traditional+ view of marriage.
- >My concen is that all partys are treated as fairly as possible.
-
- Mine, too. I wouldn't personally disregard the traditional view as completely
- as you seem to, but I am +all+ +for+ permitting flexible marriage structures.
- The state doesn't need to predefine marriage.
-
- >When
- >ever people bring up traditional as an argument, I know they have no
- >real valid arguments anymore. Its much like bringing religious
- >tennents into the argument. As far as I'm concerned, they are both
- >useless arguments.
-
- My point is that the current legal system imposes +tradition+,
- so if the legal definition of marriage is based on +tradition+,
- then the rights and liabilities must be measured and balanced
- with that in mind, not hypocritically and non-uniformly or
- politically enforced.
-
-
- >How about we just stop forcing archaic regulations on married couples.
-
- Great! Back to my point about freely entered-into contracts.
-
- It is less distance within the system, which is already +tradition+ based,
- to change things by relying on established principles and precedent,
- than it is to suggest a complete revamping.
-
- I'd rather have a complete revamping: marriage contracts should be
- as flexible as any other contract.
-
- Don
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