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- From: stevens@eatdust (John Stevens)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.abortion.inequity
- Subject: Re: Observations
- Message-ID: <1992Sep7.190944.21948@advtech.uswest.com>
- Date: 7 Sep 92 19:09:44 GMT
- References: <1992Sep1.202750.18927@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> <1992Sep3.145448.26265@advtech.uswest.com> <gzlnb8_.ray@netcom.com>
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- In article <gzlnb8_.ray@netcom.com> ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer) writes:
- >stevens@eatdust (John Stevens) writes ...
- >>In article <1992Sep1.202750.18927@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> knapp@spot.Colorado.EDU (David Knapp) writes:
- >>The pro abortion camp IS trying to make laws to force people to do the things
- >>they think we should be doing.
- >
- >First, I am NOT "pro abortion". I would object to anyone forcing an abortion
- >just as strongly as I would object to anyone forcing pregnancy.
-
- Then, I would think that you would support me. After all, having a woman
- abort your baby is forcing you to get an abortion, whether you want one or
- not.
-
- >The term
- >of preference is pro-choice (as in given women the _choice_ whether to
- >continue with the pregnancy).
-
- The least ambigous term might be pro-female-choice-NONE-for-the-father.
-
- >Second, I'm not trying to force you to do anything except respect the
- >privacy of other people.
-
- You are trying to tie my hands. Which is forcing me NOT to do anything.
-
- >You insistance on being able to force a woman to give birth to your child
- >strikes me as being rather like the chicken deciding for the pig whether
- >you should be allowed to eat ham & eggs for breakfast.
-
- If this is the best analogy you can come up with, you must be re-examing
- your belief systems about now.
-
- 1) A pig and a chicken are not even of the same species. Are you claiming
- that men and women are of different species?
-
- 2) Eating, and what you eat is a personal decision. Abortion is not.
-
- >While the legal system is rather biased towards mothers in this area, the
- >solution might be to modify child support & custody laws and rulings,
- >rather than to attempt to spread the misery. Whether I, my fiancee,
- >or my friends have, are having, or will have and abortion is none of
- >your business, and I intend to keep it that way.
-
- You can try to enforce your belief system. And so can I.
-
- >Ray Fischer
- >ray@netcom.com
-
- John
- stevens@uswest.com
-