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- From: nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos)
- Subject: Re: Nyikos Goes Under (WAS Re: THIRD TRIMESTER ABORTIONS)
- Message-ID: <nyikos.715883539@milo.math.scarolina.edu>
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- Organization: USC Department of Computer Science
- References: <1992Sep04.162824.32187@watson.ibm.com>
- Date: 7 Sep 92 16:32:19 GMT
- Lines: 57
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- In <1992Sep04.162824.32187@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis) writes:
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- >In <nyikos.715613094@milo.math.scarolina.edu> nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:
- >> When I posted the original article along this thread, it was before I
- >> realized that talk.rape had the sign "Cross-posting not allowed." If I
- >> violated any USENET rules thereby, I apologize.
-
- >But you did it again, nevertheless. (I deleted talk.rape from the
- >newsgroups line.)
-
- Thanks. From the responses I got, it does not seem that I violated any
- hard and fast rules.
-
- >> >> You mean it
- >> >>is simply a baseless speculation? Gee, I wonder where I
- >> >>learned how to do that?
- >>
- >> >Maybe you read _A Handmaid's Tale_?
- >>
- >> An off-the-wall novel set in the future USA, in which women
- >> are enslaved, RAPED, made to bear children, and if they procure
- >> an abortion, they are executed.
-
- >(Note that you're responding to yourself here.) Dean wasn't referring
- >to the anti-choicer's utopia presented in A Handmaid's Tale;
-
- As I recall, he was giving us all a tall tale about ultra-right-wing Christians
- artificially inseminating women and forcing them to bear children.
- Since I have never heard of an ultra-right-wing Christian doing the
- first, and the second is just the spin he puts on laws against
- abortionists, I figured the Handmaid's Tale might be where his fantasy
- came from about what Christians are like.
-
- [I am working from memory here. Maybe I am confusing his post with a
- similar one and he was just attributing these desires to me. But that
- is even more mistaken.]
-
- BTW "anti-choicer's utopia" is the first valid use of the term
- "anti-choice" that I have seen in talk.abortion. None of us
- pro-life networkers look upon the world described there as anything
- but a dystopia [a term for which I am indebted to Elizabeth Bartley].
- It's even more horrific than 1984, and probably lacking all the
- sophistication of Orwell's classic.
-
- > he was
- >referring to the example of baseless speculation that you've shown
- >with just about everything you've posted.
-
- When I quote from newspaper articles, magazines, books, is that baseless
- speculation? As Holtsinger told me, you don't demand unbiased sources,
- you merely label our sources "speculation." Sorry, the distinction's
- been lost on me so far, but I'll try to keep it in mind.
-
- Peter Ny.
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