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- From: garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin)
- Subject: Re: WILL THE REAL MISOGYNISTS PLEASE STAND UP? Case 1.
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- Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 03:40:46 GMT
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- In article <nyikos.715737676@milo.math.scarolina.edu> nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:
- >In <Bu43C8.6ox.2@cs.cmu.edu> garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin) writes:
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- ##Oh, yeah, right. DOD uses one of his anti-Semitic slurs as a .sig.
- ##Are you telling us that you don't read any of DOD's articles now,
- ##or are you just using the "if I can't defend it, I never saw
- ##it" excuse?
- #
- #What's anti-Semitic about disagreeing with one woman's distorted account
- #of what Judaism teaches about human life?
-
- I asked a Reform Rabbi if the view was distorted. (By the way,
- the woman is describing the Reform view of *personhood*, not
- human life.) She said no.
-
- #And even if it were not
- #distorted--would you call someone anti-Islamic if he criticized
- #people who saw nothing wrong with a precept allowing polygamy?
-
- Yes. I might, for example, think that polygamy is morally wrong.
- (Please note that this is hypothetical.) That doesn't mean that
- I would feel that I must criticize people whose religion
- advocated or accepted polygamy. Holtsinger's quote of me was
- in response to his request that I condemn the woman for
- her opinion. As I said, I see nothing extreme or reprehensible
- about her opinion. She did not say that she wanted everyone
- to accept this viewpoint.
-
- We're talking about the difference between disagreeing with
- someone and being intolerant of that person (and their religion.)
- Holtsinger has attacked people for saying anything that
- resembles a criticism of Christianity. I think that his
- attack on me for not criticizing a religious view indicates
- that Holtsinger does not believe that Judaism is worthy of
- the same respect that Christianity is. To me, that is
- the form of bigotry known as anti-Semitism.
-
- (Another example, which occurred before your arrival,
- was a post in which Chaney attributed comments made by a
- woman with a Jewish-sounding last name to "the Jews of
- New York," and denigrated the entire group.)
-
- Susan
-