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- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: THIRD TRIMESTER ABORTIONS
- Message-ID: <1992Sep4.131802.2225@brandonu.ca>
- From: mcbeanb@brandonu.ca
- Date: 4 Sep 92 13:18:01 CST
- References: <1992Aug27.115958.2175@brandonu.ca> <1992Sep3.222813.16609@noao.edu>
- Organization: Brandon University, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada
- Lines: 62
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- In article <1992Sep3.222813.16609@noao.edu>, forgach@noao.edu (Suzanne Forgach) writes:
- > From article by mcbeanb@brandonu.ca:
- >> In article forgach@noao.edu (Suzanne Forgach) writes:
- >>> From article by mcbeanb@brandonu.ca:
- >>>>
- >>>> [story of his chronically hospitalized 3 year old cousin]
- >>>>
- [...]
- >> Suzanne. Imagine a baby who is born into a world of constant excruciating
- >> pain, only to be interrupted by mind-numbing doses of powerful pain killers.
- >> Do you really think that baby is capable of *any* thought whatsoever?
- >> Capable of knowing *any* feeling but that of pain??
- >
- > Yes, in fact I really do think so. In fact, I have read several child care
- > books that when dealing with the inconsolable screaming of a baby in pain with
- > colic, parents should not assume that because they can't stop the pain they
- > can do nothing for the baby. They say that parents should hold those babies,
- > and not leave them to cry in their cribs. Sure the babies are still crying,
- > but at least they are not crying alone.
- >
- > And colic is generally over by 3 months of age, Brian. Surely a 3 year old
- > comprehends so much more about whether people care about him.
-
- Kirk's pain doesn't stop. There is no end to it, only in death.
-
- >>> For you to suggest that
- >>> your cousin would have reverted to killing her own baby is the biggest insult
- >>> you could have possibly slung at her.
- >>
- >> In your opinion. Did you stop to think that her opinion may differ?
- >
- > Did you stop to ask her before posting your own supposition to the world?
-
- I stand corrected (?)... still only opinions.
-
- >>> Beware lest somebody come along and second guess the "quality" of _your_
- >>> lifestyle, Brian, and hence whether _your_ life is "worth living".
- >>
- >> I'll take this as a sign that you don't approve of euthanasia in general.
- >
- > You are very correct!
-
- I wonder why there isn't a talk.euthanasia group!
-
- >> I'm sure that either my fiancee (hopefully my wife by the time I'm
- >> in the vegetative state) or my son could decide whether or not to
- >> "pull my plug". If they were both gone, then I'd leave my life to
- >> chance.
- >
- > Has anybody asked your young cousin? Children have a way of clinging to
- > life. They seem to think it's worth living despite pain.
-
- Kirk is unable to respond. I'm not sure if he still cries, I think he
- spends more time drooling. I haven't been to BC in a number of years
- (which is where he is btw). I truly don't think he has ever had the
- oportunity to think long enough to think his life is worth living or
- not. I agree that if such a question could be communicated to him,
- then he would want to carry on, but he is in a non-communicative state.
- Ever see the video for Metallica's song "One"? It moved me, anyway,
- even if it is a bit supernatural.
-
- Brian McBean - McBeanB@BrandonU.Ca
-