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- From: mroussel@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Marc Roussel)
- Subject: Re: Authorship and honesty
- Message-ID: <1992Sep8.172423.21313@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>
- Organization: Department of Chemistry, University of Toronto
- References: <715935623.F00001@blkcat.UUCP>
- Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:24:23 GMT
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- In article <715935623.F00001@blkcat.UUCP>
- Roger.Firestone@f349.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Roger Firestone) writes:
- >My most recent paper had 3 authors listed [...]
- >People who provided financing only were not acknowledged--what _science_ did
- >they contribute?
-
- The PROVIDERS of financing (NSERC, NSF, etc.) are usually acknowledged,
- but the person who wrote the grant application belongs in the author list.
- Without this person, the science would never have been done in the first
- place. Besides, the person receiving the grant usually was fairly
- deeply involved in the scientific genesis of the project.
-
- >In the Renaissance and early modern period, there was a tradition of patronage
- >of artists. da Vinci never signed a painting with both his name and that of
- >his patron.
-
- That's true, but the relationship is wrong. We don't put NSERC (or
- NSF or ...) in the author list; NSERC is the patron to use your analogy.
- Da Vinci's students however routinely signed his name to their works; his
- ability to convince patrons to fund his studio was the reason these
- students were able to pursue art. Things have not changed, except for
- the better: At least now, the work is cosigned by master and student.
-
- Marc R. Roussel
- mroussel@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca
-