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- From: ecaxron@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Ron Graham)
- Subject: Re: Dr. Fabrikant and honesty in science
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- References: <1992Aug27.132822.4428@bb1t.monsanto.com> <1992Aug28.030530.7738@tc.cornell.edu> <1992Aug31.103949.4435@bb1t.monsanto.com> <1992Sep4.082052.8993@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu>
- Date: 5 Sep 1992 14:40 EST
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- In article <1992Sep4.082052.8993@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu>,
- mancini@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (Derrick C. Mancini) writes...
-
- >I want only to add that I know from personal experience that such type
- >of events are becoming only to common in academia. I, too, was asked to
- >include names on a paper I was to present at a conference by request of
- >my supervisor. Not only had they not contributed, but even inhibited the
- >work for their own ends at the time. However, they were a possible source
- >of funding for my supervisor.
-
- This brings up a pertinent question: were they a source of funding for *you*?
-
- IMPO, if they were, it is not that big a deal to include representative names
- as co-authors. Here's why: (1) Most of us are not dedicated enough to "pure"
- research to continue said research on our own time, unfunded, and with only
- what resources we can scare up. We often need a "rainmaker" to stay in
- business. (Of course, if that rainmaker is an organization, we can always
- simply acknowledge the organization.) (2) If certain individuals *do* fund
- your work, and they do it for any reasons other than "we have money to use
- before the end of our fiscal year," for instance, if they *listened* during
- your pitch about the work, then they are showing not only deep pockets, but
- an empathy toward you and your feelings that the work is needed. (3) The
- work, when successfully completed and published, is made known through not
- only your chain of command, but theirs as well - establishing potential
- contacts for follow-on work down the road.
-
- Finally, you still publish the work with your name listed as principal
- author, indicating that you are the one people must contact with questions.
- And you go to the conference and get the "attaboys" there, and you are the
- one who gets your picture in the journal.
-
- >Finally it came down to my supervisor saying
- >I either included thequestionable authorship or I did not publish the
- >results. I chose the latter in the end. I made it clear that I considered
- >it an ethical problem, and in part feel my supervisor no longer was supportive
- >of my work because I had apparently questioned his ethics. What disappointed
- >me most is that he could not acknowledge at least some doubts about such
- >behavior, maintaining it was the norm. Just felt I had to let people know
- >others do experience the negative effects of the current climate in science.
-
- The "current climate in science" is that no-one (by and large) does their
- research in their garage, or in any other vacuum. If others share their
- wealth with you, is it asking too much to give some back?
-
- The only disclaimer I will add to this is that I have trouble with sharing
- what little glory I may earn with Senior Management, if they only sign my
- paycheck and show no other concern, support or empathy until the work is to
- be published. At least let me go to bat for myself and justify the work,
- and let me keep them posted on how its going. You never know in what other
- ways the boss can help you as you go along.
-
- RG
-
- "Babe Ruth should never have given up pitching." - Tris Speaker, 1921
-