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- From: jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez)
- Subject: Warm and Fuzzy? Koalas vs. Math
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- Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 21:05:51 GMT
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- andrew@rentec.com (Andrew Mullhaupt) writes:
- >In article <22218@galaxy.ucr.edu> baez@ucrmath.ucr.edu (john baez) writes:
- >>In article <1223@kepler1.rentec.com> andrew@rentec.com (Andrew Mullhaupt) writes:
- >>>In other words, I defy anyone to make sensible the claim that mathematics is
- >>>_not_ a soft, warm fuzzy, human frailty.
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- >>Mathematics is clearly a human activity and as such subject to all the foibles
- >>of any other human activity, but it is NOT warm and fuzzy. It is cool and
- >>smooth. If you want something warm and fuzzy, raise koala bears.
-
- >Ever checked the claws on those bears?
-
- That's the usual drawback of warm and fuzzy things - they come with
- claws! :-)
-
- >But mathematics is not cool and smooth unless you want it to be.
-
- I do. Rather, I love it for that quality, and prefer to get my warmth
- and fuzziness elsewhere.
-
- >There are only a very few activities that no civilization seems to manage
- >without for very long. Mathematics is one of them. It lies very close to
- >some of the deepest human urges - certainty, truth, beauty, security, you
- >get them all in math. Presumably, you regard these as "cool and smooth"
- >and a bit like impersonal Hellenistic abstractions.
-
- Yup.
-
- >But in this century,
- >we find that there are different possibilities for the "true truth" of math-
- >and we have to _choose_ which one we _want_. Anything as central to human
- >culture as mathematics is is warm and fuzzy it you look at it close up.
-
- Well, to me "warm and fuzzy" doesn't just mean subject to
- human choice and human foibles. I think of teddy bears, sweaters,
- roasting chestnuts by the fireside, and other cozy activities.
- Mathematics to me has an attraction of a very different flavor, which
- I can only try to convey as that of an infinitely dazzling, infinitely
- complex labyrinth of diamantine crystal - of course there is complete
- freedom of choice about which way to wander in this labyrinth, and
- it's easy to get seduced into endless exploration of even the most
- minor passageways, which open out into further passageways....
-
- All this is utterly personal and not worth arguing about any more than
- the best flavor of ice cream.
-
- >You've made the claim - try making it stick.
-
- I made a wisecrack and now I'm beginning to regret it.
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