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- From: gjm11@cus.cam.ac.uk (G.J. McCaughan)
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- Subject: Re: What about 3.4 dimension?
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- Date: 10 Sep 92 23:50:19 GMT
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- In article <Sep10.194827.29156@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, be231642@longs.LANCE.ColoState.EDU (Bret Egan) writes:
-
- > Is there any literature about the possibilites of dimensions of real numbers?
- >
- > R^1.2 or R^pi
-
- Well, there are certainly notions of dimension that can give non-integral
- answers. It's not a case of fractional-dimension SPACES, though (I really
- don't see any chance of R^pi making sense), but of fractional-dimension
- SETS.
- This sort of thing is all tied up with fractals, so I suppose it's quite
- trendy at the moment. Here's one way of looking at it...
-
- One way to figure out the dimension of something is to try covering it with
- lots of little balls or boxes or whatever, and see how the number of balls,
- boxes or whatever needed varies as the <whatever> get smaller.
-
- So if you've got a 2-dimensional thing, halving the size of your bits means
- you have to multiply the number of them by 4; but if you've got a 1-dimensional
- thing, you can sort of string the little balls/boxes/whatever along it, and
- you only need about twice as many when you halve the size.
-
- (If you don't see this: Draw on a piece of paper (i) a 2-dimensional blob and
- (ii) a wiggly line, or something made up of a [finite!] number of wiggly lines.
- Then try to cover each of them with as few circles of radius 1cm as possible,
- and then with as few of radius 0.5cm as possible. (Don't worry about how exactly
- circular your circles are.) You should find that for (i) you need about four
- times as many half-size circles, but for (ii) you need about twice as many.)
-
- NB Don't make the line *too* wiggly. Roughly, to get the scaling coming out
- right you need the wiggles to be on a smaller scale than the size of the
- circles you use.
-
- OK; what's happening here, translated into mathematician-speak, is that for
- small enough values of r the number of circles (or balls, or boxes, or ...)
- you need if they all have radius r, is about K/r^D where K is some constant
- and D is the dimension of the object you're looking at.
-
- Well, there are sets for which a relation like that holds WITH FRACTIONAL D,
- and in these cases it seems sense to call D the "dimension" of the set.
-
- Example: That famous "snowflake" thing you get as follows: The first "stage"
- is just an equilateral triangle. The second is obtained by gluing on a 1/3-size
- equilateral triangle onto the outside of each side of the triangle; this looks
- like a Star of David. The third is obtained by gluing on a 1/9-size triangle
- to the outside of each line segment making up the new figure. And so on, adding
- more and smaller triangles every time.
- If you think of this as a "filled-in" shape, it has dimension 2. (This is easy
- to prove.) But what about the boundary? That actually has dimension 4/3, and
- this is sort of because if you look at it at 3 times the "magnification" you
- see 4 times as many line segments (at each stage you replace one line by four
- lines of 1/3 the length). If you like, try the same experiment as I suggested
- earlier!
-
- This is the usual notion of fractional dimension; it is basically due to
- Hausdorff. If you are reasonably expert with mathematics you could have a
- look at "The Geometry of Fractal Sets" by Falconer, published CUP quite
- recently (198x); if not, you'd perhaps do better to read one of the many
- books on fractals -- certainly Mandelbrot's "The Fractal Geometry of Nature"
- has quite a lot of discussion of dimension; there are more recent books,
- some of which might also have the information you want.
-
- --
- Gareth McCaughan Dept. of Pure Mathematics & Mathematical Statistics,
- gjm11@cus.cam.ac.uk Cambridge University, England. [Research student]
-