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- Subject: Re: Proof of the impossibility of god.
- Message-ID: <1992Sep8.004839.704@csc.canterbury.ac.nz>
- From: chisnall@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz (The Technicolour Throw-up)
- Date: 8 Sep 92 00:48:38 +1200
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- From article <1992Sep7.135438.689@csc.canterbury.ac.nz>, by wft@math.canterbury.ac.nz (Bill Taylor):
- > So; I'm sure there must be many posters who'd like to send in their own
- > "Proof of the impossibility of god".
- >
- > As a starter, I'll throw out the idea that the set of numbers of halting
- > machines can't be computable, yet, an omniscient god would know this set,
- > and thus, (being rational (?) ), would have an algorithm to compute them,
- > so they *would* form a computable set......
-
- This assumes that God is computable which seems rather unlikely. Why does
- God have to be in 0 rather than 0', 0'' etc. Think of God as the ultimate
- oracle (e.g. P^God = NP^God :-).
-
- In another group Marko Amnell recently started a discussion on omniscience
- and sets of all sets. Originally Omniscience probably meant nothing more
- than that God was the utilmate village Gossip - he knew where everyone was
- and what everyone was thinking. These days we demand more from the notion.
- This can possibly cause conflict with modern logic (as well as QM). E.g. Can
- God know all sets given that (in ZF) there is no set of all sets. Can God
- know (a) all the statements of ZF (b) which ones are true, and (c) which ones
- are independent, and still be a consistent reasoner?
-
- Followups to sci.philosophy.tech.
-
- P.S. Bill - your text wasn't word-wrapped into 80 columns.
- --
- Just my two rubber ningis worth.
- Name: Michael Chisnall (chisnall@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz)
- I'm not a .signature virus and nor do I play one on tv.
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