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- From: jdr@starflight.Corp.Sun.COM (Jon Roland)
- Newsgroups: sci.environment,talk.environment
- Subject: Re: population load question
- Date: 7 Sep 1992 23:38:07 GMT
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- In article 26181@acs.ucalgary.ca, edstrom@Elmer.hsc.ucalgary.ca (John Edstrom) writes:
- >Its a broad question but what are the current estimates of the
- >carrying capacity of the earth for humans? Somebody told me it around
- >2 billion.
-
- In ecology the carrying capacity of an environment for a species is
- typically defined for a long time period, thousands or millions of
- years. If we apply that definition to the earth and humans we encounter
- a problem in that humans build an artificial life support system for
- themselves which presently draws on resources from the natural
- ecosystem and geosystem, but which could in principle recycle all
- materials on draw on the external environment only for a fairly small
- amount of energy.
-
- So the answer to your question depends on how that artificial life
- support system, which might be called the technosystem or arcosystem,
- is structured and operated.
-
- If it continues to depend on the natural ecosystem and geosystem, then
- it will deplete its resource base and collapse.
-
- To put it in somewhat simplistic terms, but terms which do not in
- general lead to the wrong ultimate conclusion, the carrying capacity of
- the natural ecosystem and geosystem for humanity is not made any
- greater by the application of technology. Nothing we have done beats
- the number the natural ecosystem could support when man was a
- hunter-gatherer, which yields a carrying capacity of somewhere between
- 4 and 100 million, worldwide. The latter figure is based on ocean
- fishing.
-
- Technology has so far been used not to increase the carrying capacity
- of the Earth, but to sustain a population greater than that carrying
- capacity by exploiting resources in a way that is reducing the carrying
- capacity of the Earth.
-
- I would estimate that, as a result of the application of technology,
- the carrying capacity of the Earth is now about 20 percent of what it
- was 100,000 years ago, or between about 1 and 20 million persons. I
- expect another reduction in carrying capacity by about a factor of 5 in
- the next 100 years.
-
- Now, it is possible to apply technology in other ways. As I have
- discussed in other postings, it is possible to use it to build starship
- cities that are sealed, compact, and totally self-contained in
- materials, using only a little energy. If people lived in such cities,
- the Earth could support a great many of them. I have shown that a world
- population of more than 1 trillion persons is feasible (although not
- necessarily desirable for various reasons).
-
- But they could not draw on the natural ecosystem or geosystem for any
- resources. Not even air or water. Only a little energy. The natural
- ecosystem could then return to something like its original state before
- Man came along.
-
- If, however, we continue to live in a scattered, open system, then
- civilization is unsustainable for more than a few more decades, and the
- New Stone Age will not be as congenial as the last one was, nor will it
- support nearly as many people.
-
- ---
-
- jdr@starflight.corp.sun.com, starflt@uunet.uu.net
- Jon Roland
- Starflight Corporation, 1755 E Bayshore Rd #9A,
- Redwood City, CA 94063-4142, 415/361-8141
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