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- From: raoul@eplunix.UUCP (Nico Garcia)
- Newsgroups: sci.electronics
- Subject: Re: Phone line bleeding - help
- Message-ID: <1267@eplunix.UUCP>
- Date: 6 Sep 92 18:05:42 GMT
- References: <1992Sep6.023726.4092@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
- Organization: Eaton-Peabody Lab, Boston, MA
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- feiges@cae.wisc.edu (Howard Feiges):
- > Now, we have two phone lines... It seems to me that when people are on
- > both lines - the person on one line can faintly hear the person on the
- > other line talk - and visa versa...
-
- It's called "crosstalk". It can happen because a) your wiring is bad, and
- there's a slight resistive path between your phone lines. To test this,
- disconnect the phone company from your system and use an ohmmeter between
- your phone lines, between every pair of wires. The red and green, line 1,
- should have infinite resistance with the phones on-hook (or, say, 10 meg if
- you've wired in certain types of in-use indicators). The same for black and
- yellow, line 2. Black-red, black-green, yellow-red, and yellow-green should
- be infinite. (Use appropriate color names for whatever color you've actually
- uused!) If you've installed or are installing a bunch of in-use indicators
- that use the same circuitry for both phones, you might have to re-think it.
- They could be tying your phone lines together.
-
- The other possibility is b) electromagnetic coupling. This is like a
- transformer or capacitors: moving real currents in real wires creates real
- fields that can be picked up on real wires near them. The longer the wires
- run next to each other, the better the coupling between them. Think of your
- phone wires as a transformer without a core, unrolled all over your house.
-
- The best way to stop this is to a) run your wires separately, or b) use
- twisted pair. By twisting the red-green and yellow-black pairs at different
- rates, you reduce the coupling a lot. Twisted pair wire has this done for
- you. The flat silver wire, with all four wires in a plane, should only be
- used for short runs (from the phone to the socket, say).
-
- Your modem doesn't care because it's faint, and your signals are much
- stronger than the noise from the other line. Your ears, however, are very
- good at picking up background speech at much lower volume levels.
-
- Let us know what you find out.....
-
-
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- Nico Garcia
- CIRL/MEEI
- eddie.mit.edu!eplunix!raoul
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