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- From: ncostello@vms.eurokom.ie
- Newsgroups: sci.econ
- Subject: Re: Free movement of labour/labor
- Message-ID: <1992Sep10.162749.11984@vms.eurokom.ie>
- Date: 10 Sep 92 16:27:49 CET
- References: <1992Sep9.181135.11977@vms.eurokom.ie> <1992Sep9.182647.28917@Princeton.EDU>
- Organization: EuroKom Conferencing Service
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- In article <1992Sep9.182647.28917@Princeton.EDU>, jmo@stokes.princeton.edu (Mike Orszag) writes:
- > In article <1992Sep9.181135.11977@vms.eurokom.ie>, ncostello@vms.eurokom.ie writes:
- > |> Has anybody come across any free-market economist who opposes free
- > |> movement of labour internationally (e.g. from very poor to very rich
- > |> countries)? I'd be interested to know if any such arguments exist,
- > |> since it seems as logically simple as 2+2=4 to show that support for
- > |> abolishing any controls on "economic migrants" follows from a belief
- > |> in free markets.
- >
- > Are you sure? If there were no distortions in the world, possibly,
- > but I don't understand how one can make any such assertion when
- > there are other distortions even if one believes strongly in
- > free markets. Even with no distortions in the world, consider
- > workers who would be made worse off and displaced by the influx
- > of new workers; in the language of the free market economist,
- > this is not Pareto optimal unless lump sum payments can be
- > devised to compensate workers for their losses; to make an
- > argument work, you must prove that such a scheme is feasible
- > theoretically. To summarize, it would be perfectly consistent
- > with the viewpoint of a free market economist to support controls
- > on economic migrants.
- I agree with your second-best argument - in pure theory. I suppose
- the point I am trying to make is that your valid argument does not
- hold many free-market economists from arguing in favour of dismantling,
- e.g., exchange controls, dual exchange rates, controls on capital
- movements; while their arguments in favour of these dismantlings are
- as open to your argument as is mine in favour of dismantling immigration
- controls (or emigration controls in the odd one or two cases like the
- ex-DDR). I suppose what I'm really suggesting is that real-world
- "free-market" political economists (as opposed to pure theoretical
- economists) are often inconsistent in not arguing for abolition
- of immigration controls, and this is still more true of "free-market"
- politicians. Perhaps it's because of the existence of two different
- kinds of right-winger: the libertarian free-market individualist
- "there's no such thing as society" rightwinger, and the family-values,
- semi-feudal semi-fascistic patriarchal and often racist rightwinger,
- and I'm citing a case where in practice the former often borrow a
- doctrine (immigration controls) from the latter.
-