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- From: rja14@cl.cam.ac.uk (Ross Anderson)
- Newsgroups: sci.crypt
- Subject: Re: ATM fraud
- Message-ID: <1992Sep12.082341.7472@cl.cam.ac.uk>
- Date: 12 Sep 92 08:23:41 GMT
- References: <JIM.92Sep9125700@hunter.cs.strath.ac.uk> <6289@transfer.stratus.com> <7161518255083@c00506-119rd.eos.ncsu.edu> <12833@grayt> <1992Sep11.160538.14966@osf.org>
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- Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
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- In <1992Sep11.160538.14966@osf.org>, Paul Karger (karger@osf.org) writes:
-
- > I know of only two cases where the crook actually went to the
- > trouble of building a phony ATM machine - one in New York City and
- > one in Italy.
-
- > I've seen other cases where the crooks took a much simpler
- > approach to robbing the ATM - namely they planted dynamite and tried to
- > blow the machine up!! There was a case in my old home town, and the crooks
- > failed, because they didn't use enough dynamite - the armor plating on the
- > machine survived the blast.
-
- In another case I know of, the crooks broke into a bank branch and spent
- several hours with a thermic lance going through the back of the machine.
- They should have bought a manual first - instead of getting the crypto keys,
- or at least the cash, all they managed to do was incinerate the cheque
- deposits.
-
- There have been quite a number of cases in the UK of crooks using a mechanical
- digger to take the whole machine away. Sooner or later, one of these crooks
- will not just take the cash but do some `practical cryptanalysis'. Maybe
- they already have and this is why there's so many phantom withdrawals,
-
- Ross
-