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- From: karger@osf.org (Paul A. Karger)
- Subject: Re: ATM fraud
- Message-ID: <1992Sep11.160538.14966@osf.org>
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- References: <JIM.92Sep9125700@hunter.cs.strath.ac.uk> <6289@transfer.stratus.com> <7161518255083@c00506-119rd.eos.ncsu.edu> <12833@grayt>
- Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:05:38 GMT
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- In article <12833@grayt>, grayt@Software.Mitel.COM (Tom Gray) writes:
-
- |>
- |> Perhaps a comment from a layman will be thought appropriate.
- |> ATM fraud is an economic enterprise. That is the crook is going
- |> to have to make money on the deal. Complicated schemes to gather
- |> thousands of PIN's to rob thousands of accounts are all very well.
- |> However if the outcome of this is too deposit thousands of individual
- |> sums into the account of Joe Bloggs (computer thief and chef international),
- |> the long arm of the law will not be far behind him on the electronic road.
- |> The cops say to break up an elaborate criminal conspiracy, one should
- |> follow the money. Here the crook is not only leaving a paper path, he
- |> is providing a road map.
- |>
- |> IMHO anyway
- |>
-
- Quite true - I know of only two cases where the crook actually went to the
- trouble of building a phony ATM machine - one in New York City and
- one in Italy.
-
- I've seen other cases where the crooks took a much simpler
- approach to robbing the ATM - namely they planted dynamite and tried to
- blow the machine up!! There was a case in my old home town, and the crooks
- failed, because they didn't use enough dynamite - the armor plating on the
- machine survived the blast.
-
- This is the traditional problem. The defender must find and close all
- holes into the system. The attacker need only find one hole and exploit
- it. (Or in the case above, create the hole with dynamite!)
-