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- From: dgraham@bmers30.bnr.ca (Douglas Graham)
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- Subject: Re: BofA and UW can now support discrimination against blacks and Jews
- Message-ID: <1992Sep12.035348.29757@bmerh85.bnr.ca>
- Date: 12 Sep 92 03:53:48 GMT
- References: <1992Sep8.235056.10764@cs.yale.edu> <AWERLING.92Sep11124805@dante.nmsu.edu> <1992Sep11.200405.22799@cs.yale.edu>
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- In article <1992Sep11.200405.22799@cs.yale.edu> rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu (Eric Rescorla) writes:
- >In article <AWERLING.92Sep11124805@dante.nmsu.edu> awerling@nmsu.edu (WERLING) writes:
- >>You can continue to, without supporting the claim, state that I fail
- >>to back up my assertions. Show me the logical flaws and I'll respond
- >>to them. Just saying that I'm repeating myself without further
- >>explanation just makes you look like someone without a real argument
- >>to fall back on.
- >
- >Mr. Werling, you have yet to DISPLAY any logic, therefore I am unable
- >to point out logical flaws for you.
- >You have simply continued to assert that telling children
- >of one's religious beliefs that being gay is sinful is immoral.
-
- He also claimed that teaching other forms of bigotry is immoral,
- a claim to which you also objected.
-
- >I have been and continue to be skeptical of that claim. You, sir,
- >have the burden of proof. I have and am asking you again to meet
- >that burden. If you refuse to do so, the only rational conclusion
- >to make is that you are unable to do so.
-
- Perhaps Mr. Rescorla, you could be a bit clearer about what your point
- is. How the hell do you prove that anything is immoral? Can you
- prove that murder is immoral? Would it be immoral of me to teach
- my children that all people with a last name of "Rescorla" are evil
- and should be exterminated? Presumably, you would object if I did
- this, so if it's the word "immoral" that you object to, perhaps you
- could provide an alternate rational argument for why I should not teach
- my kids this. I'm betting that any argument you can come up with
- applies equally well to preaching any other kind of bigotry, including
- that against homosexuals.
- --
- Doug Graham Unk, the big trouble with dumb bastards is that they
- dgraham@bnr.ca are too dumb to believe there is such a thing as being
- My own opinions. smart. --Kurt Vonnegut from _The Sirens of Titan_
-