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- From: katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy Beatty)
- Subject: Re: BofA and UW can now support discrimination against blacks and Jews
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- Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:53:14 GMT
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- st1lv@rosie.uh.edu (McLeod, Stephen) writes:
- : >:
- : >: I'm very well aware that a majority of pedophiles are not homosexuals but
- : >: when my child is 16 they are not a child but not an adult. Since I believe
- : >: that homosexuality is partially environment and since I wish to influence my
- : >: children to be straight, I feel uncomfortable for them to be around homosexuals.
- : >
- : >Just because you believe something doesn't make it true. Why can't you believe
- : >us when we keep telling you that we were *NOT* influenced to be gay? In fact,
- : >just the opposite is true - society *HEAVILY* influences us to be straight.
- : >:
- : >: Why? Because when I was young, I *was* hit on by the homosexual who headed up
- : >: our door to door sales team.
- : >
- : >But you did not turn out to be gay? But if he had so much influence, why didn't
- : >you? Could it be <gasp> that you were *BORN* straight...
- : >
- : >He *did* get into a relationship with one of my
- : >: friends (who was at the ripe old age of 14).
- : >
- : >and that your friend was *BORN* gay? Nah, it must have been that that homosexual
- : >somehow wielded his influence over your friend but not you.
- :
- : Well, first you don't at all bothered by the fact that we were fourteen so part
- : of my argument (and my problem with my own children as they reach this age) is
- : obviously falling on deaf ears with you.
-
- : As far as his being born gay, I'm sure you would say that he is leading a very
- : unhappy life having been forced into a marraige with a girl he claims to have
- : married for love and had a couple kids with.
- :
- : >
- : >I do want grandchildren and I
- : >: feel that the straight lifestyle will result in a happier life for my children
- : >: as well. If they turn out to be gay, I won't try to reprogram then or stop
- : >: loving them but I feel that the environment in which they are raised can have an
- : >: effect on their orientation. Is it 10%, 20%, 50%? I don't know.
- : >:
- : >What utter bullshit - can't you even see the contradiction in your own story?
- : >
- :
- : I don't see a contradiction. I see percentages, modified by the things she
- : experiences. Perhaps you had a 100% chance to be homosexual. Maybe she has an
- : 20% to be homosexual.
-
- So, to prove that exposure to homosexuals causes one to become homosexual, you
- came up with the story about you and your friend having an encounter with a
- pedophile when you were both 14. Now you turn around and state that NEITHER of
- you are homosexual. So how did your exposure to this pedophile cause
- homosexuality? The answer: it did not in either of you.
-
- To reiterate what has been said over and over and over ....
-
-
- MOST pedophiles are heterosexual, not homosexual. Heterosexual pedophiles
- often prey upon young boys. I am sorry and outraged that you and your friend
- were victims of a pedophile. It did not turn either of you into homosexuals.
- How can you argue that it did, when you yourself say it didn't?
-
- The overwhelming majority of homosexuals are NOT pedophiles. To imply that
- homosexual == pedophilia is bigotry, pure and simple.
-
- I personally know many children who are either children of, or are in close
- contacts with, Lesbians and Gay men. It does NOT influence their orientation.
- It does tend to make them not believe the kinds of prejudiced lies that
- are told about Lesbians and Gay men. The incidence of homosexuality in
- children of Lesbians and Gay men has been shown to be equivalent to that
- in children of heterosexual parents. This should be proof in itself that
- exposure to homosexuality does not cause homosexuality. To turn around and
- say it does not prove anything is ignoring the facts. That is bigotry.
-
-
- Kathy
-