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- From: aap@wam.umd.edu (Alberto Adolfo Pinkas)
- Subject: Re: BofA and UW can now support discrimination against blacks and Jews
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- In article <RLK.92Sep4164233@underprize.think.com> rlk@underprize.think.com (Robert Krawitz) writes:
- >In article <1992Sep3.204432.5451@wam.umd.edu> aap@wam.umd.edu (Alberto Adolfo Pinkas) writes:
- >
- > This thing about having or not a choice is not so simple. Some
- > people might feel that they have no choice but to take their children
- > out from the troop. Then, neither ine will have a choice. This is
- > the same in a lot of other cases: I have a choice of buying or not a
- > house, however, I do not have the money. Ergo: I don't really have a
- > choice. The same here: If some parent doees not want hie/her
- > children to be near an homosexual leader (being this a good or bad
- > thing to do), he or she will not have a choice but to take his/her
- > children from the troop.
- >
- > The only real choice here is: Do I want my children under the
- > leadership of an homosexual?
- >
- > If the answer is yes or I do not care, there is a choice. If the
- > answer is no, there is no choice.
- >
- >Does your argument change materially if you substitute "Jew" or "black"
- >or "liberal" for "homosexual"? If so in any of these cases, why?
-
- Yes, I think it does, although it would change in a different way in
- each case, even if the results are the same.
- There is a different perception from society about each one of these groups,
- and that makes the difference. It is not the same reason why society at large
- condemns discrimination of Jews or Blacks or Women, even if these different
- perceptions result in the same effect.
- It is clear, at least for me, that there is no agreement on what "homosexuality"means for most people on both sides of this debate.
- So, they are not talking the same language.
- For some, it is a behavioral problem. For others, being gay is just having
- sex with another man. For others, being gay is part of their self. And, so
- forth.
- That is why we cannot equate different segregated groups. Because they are not
- segregated based on the same reason, even if the effect is the same.
-
-
-
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