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- From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
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- Subject: Re: Engines - thermodynamics
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- Date: 12 Sep 92 19:38:59 GMT
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- In article <1992Sep11.010128.14306@bohra.cpg.oz.au> jrp@bohra.cpg.oz.au (John Pitman) writes:
- >hi there,
- >On the earlier thread about FAQ and engines, think about the following scenario:
- >Take a petrol engine which operates at a given power output, at a stable
- >temperature above ambient. Increase the compression ratio , and make the other
- >necessary adjustments - increase octane of fuel as required, advance spark etc.
- >This should produce more power from the same volume of fuel (?) - what will the
- >stable operating temperature do , other things being equal (ie same ambient,
- >humidity, radiator, water pump etc ) ???
- >Conservation of energy says the temperature goes down, as the extra usable
- >power has to come from somewhere ? WHat we have done is improve the volumetric
- >efficiency of the motor, and I think the HP/LB/HOUR ( or reduce the lb/hp/hr).
- >If the engine was initially under compressed, we wont need to alter the fuel to
- >get an improvement at all, maybe only advance the spark a bit.
- >
- >any comments ? Dont know how t relates to model engines though?
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- I'm not sure whether the temperature would go up or down, but my
- guess is that the added power in this case comes from added efficiency,
- i.e. less unburned fuel gets spewed out the exhaust. In both cars and
- model airplane engines an astonishing amount of fuel is wasted in this
- manner, since leaner mixtures just won't ignite. This isn't thermody-
- namic inefficiency, just plain old incomplete burning.
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- One thing car manufacturers did to improve gas mileage and emissions
- back in the mid and late 70s was improve ignition systems to the point
- where one could use larger spark plug gaps than before (typical plug
- gap for the old points-based ignitions was like .035 - .040 inch. Its
- more like .08 inch these days) and burn leaner mixtures.
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