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- From: chucko@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Chuck Fry)
- Subject: Re: Dirty oil after change?
- Message-ID: <1992Sep10.212440.27799@kronos.arc.nasa.gov>
- Keywords: oil changes
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- References: <146@bluehau.bubble.org> <1992Sep10.171455.28660@swlvx2.msd.ray.com> <18ocibINN159@seven-up.East.Sun.COM>
- Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:24:40 GMT
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- In article <18ocibINN159@seven-up.East.Sun.COM> jimv@hienergy.Eng.Sun.COM (Jim Vienneau - Sun Microsystems) writes:
- >The truth is: LACK OF MAINTENANCE is what kills most engines, not what brand
- >of oil you use or if it's changed at 2K or 5K. Most people just don't
- >seem to change it at all or at 20 or 30k when they think of it. This is
- >doubly true for automatic transmission fluid.
-
- Amen. My roommate is this way. She wouldn't even take her bomb to a
- quick-lube place if I didn't pester her about it twice a year, or even
- offer to take it myself. (I won't change oil on her car anymore...
- Taurus oil filters are a brass-plated bitch to get out!)
-
- >The other truth is: trust no one to work on your car. Dealers and garages
- >are there to make a buck off you, they don't care if you get 50K or 250K
- >out of your car. The quick lube places WILL NOT grease your car (they
- >know you can't tell) and may or may not damage the drain plug, replace the
- >filter, etc. The dealers and garages will misdiagnose your problem and replace
- >good parts. When they find this didn't fix the problem, they will claim
- >that the already replaced parts were bad too. The auto repair and
- >maintenance industry is as crooked as they get (OK, there's probably a
- >few honest ones, but I haven't found one yet).
-
- Um, if you hadn't noticed, there aren't many places to grease on a
- late-model car. My '89 Mustang had zero grease fittings as delivered.
- That's right, exactly none. (Since then I've installed greasable tie
- rod ends, and will eventually get greasable ball joints.)
-
- I do check my roommate's car when the quick-lube place is done with
- it, to make sure that it has had clean oil put in. Due to her
- past maintenance habits, the oil gets dirty quickly, so I have to
- check within the first day or two.
-
- I'm embarrassed to say how many times a shop has hit me up for
- maintenance that either wasn't necessary or couldn't have been done in
- the first place (e.g. "adjusting the play in the rack-and-pinion" on
- my Mustang: no such adjustment exists!). I used to buy it, but I hit
- my limit when a well respected shop around here tried to sell me a new
- fan belt, when I had replaced it myself just 3 months earlier!
-
- And they try to pull these stunts on a gearhead! I can imagine what
- the, um, automotively challenged must feel like when they receive this
- treatment.
-
- There is a general lack of competence in the auto repair business,
- which is equalled only by the lack of respect it shows for its
- customers. (Which lack of respect is reflected by the customers back
- to the shops...) I get tempted to go into the business every now and
- then, but I don't think it's worth the hassle.
-
- >Sorry, I kind of got off the track a bit (a bit jaded I guess, or maybe it's
- >experienced). The bottom line is: Do reasonable maintenance, make sure it's
- >done right (ie, do it yourself), and you'll be sitting pretty. Don't worry
- >about the oil getting dark, it's just doing it's job.
-
- But I can't do everything myself... yet.
-
- Anyone out there know of a good home alignment setup?
-
- -- Chuck Fry Chucko@charon.arc.nasa.gov
- Tired of being overcharged for a 15-minute job
-