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- From: (Eric Youngblood)
- Subject: Re: estimating real performance gains
- Message-ID: <1992Sep08.203119.21972@bnr.ca>
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- References: <1992Sep7.112916@worf.UCSD.Edu>
- Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 20:31:19 GMT
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- In article <1992Sep7.112916@worf.UCSD.Edu>, dlou@WORF.UCSD.EDU (Dennis Lou) writes:
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- |> Given a car's curb weight, max horsepower rating, max torque rating, etc.
- |> is it possible to ESTIMATE how much an increase in horsepower/torque
- |> would be necessary to reduce the 0-60 time by 1 second (assuming the
- |> change in timing, exhaust manifold, or whatever does not cause the
- |> power/torque to decrease along any point of its original curve)?
- |>
- |> How about the necessary reduction in weight? reduction by 1 second in
- |> 1/4 mile times? top speed?
- |>
- |>
- |> --
- |> Dennis Lou || "But Yossarian, what if everyone thought that way?"
- |> dlou@ucsd.edu || "Then I'd be crazy to think any other way!"
- |> [backbone]!ucsd!dlou |+====================================================
- |> dlou@ucsd.BITNET |Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak went to my high school.
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- There is a book printed that has a lot of useful formulas for automotive
- enthusiasts. I think Haynes is the publisher. The title is "AUTO MATH".
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- In the text is a section which comes close to answering your question:
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- It is possible to "estimate" quarter mile ETs based on HP and vehicle weight.
- These are only estimates and the constants used were derived empirically.
- ____________
- ET = \3/ (weight/HP) * 5.825
- V
- ____________
- MPH = \3/ (HP/weight) * 234
- V
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- ex: 93 RX7 weighs ~2800 lbs and rates 255 bhp
- If you add weight of driver and any fuel &/or equipment you get
- more realistic numbers ...
- ie.. 2800lbs + 150lb driver + 120lbs gasoline(full tank) = 3070 lbs
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- ET = [cube_root(3070/255)]*5.825
- ET = 13.35
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- MPH = [cube_root(255/3070)] * 234
- MPH = 102.09
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- You can also estimate HP from vehicle wt and known ET.
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- HP = weight / (ET/5.825)^3
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- so a 3500 lb car that can do a 13.5 sec quarter mile ET ...
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- HP = 3500 / (13.5/5.825)^3
- HP = 281.16
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- The formulas dont take into account changes in gear ratios, traction, shift
- points, etc. It is assumed that perfect shifts are made. These formulas will
- get you "close" to what may be possible with a given chassis and engine
- combination, before spending any money. They are also alot of fun to play with
- in the "WHAT IF?" mode. Of course they work best in a narrow range of parameters
- ie .. normal weight street autos with reasonable gear sets & ratios.
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- Have fun,
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- $0.02
- Ericy
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