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- Subject: Part I, PACIFICA RADIO Investigates the Murder of President Kennedy
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- I made the following transcript from a tape recording
- of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio station
- WBAI-FM (99.5)
- 505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl.
- New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707
-
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- GARY NULL:
- There is criticism on the part of the media to opening up the
- John F. Kennedy assassination to a new investigation. However,
- there are individuals who are willing to challenge this stance.
- They feel that there are more than enough reasons to open up
- the Warren Commission findings and to take another look;
- even to convene another impartial group of researchers and
- investigators who have subpoena power; even a special prosecutor,
- if necessary, to delve into this issue without the FBI and the
- CIA being the ones who are primarily responsible for giving the
- information, as some doubt has been raised concerning their
- objectivity in the original Warren Commission hearings and
- research-gathering.
-
- Our first guest on today's program is Harold Weisberg, the
- House Subcommitee on Assassinations investigator, the author
- of a book on Lee Harvey Oswald and the post-mortem, the whitewash
- and the frame-up. He has also written a book on the assassination
- of Martin Luther King. Welcome to our program, Mr. Weisberg.
- I would like you to give us your professional assessment of the
- House Select Committee on Assassinations -- since you were a
- primary investigator there -- on their findings, on the Warren
- Commission, and on ....
-
- HAROLD WEISBERG:
- I had no connection with the House Committee. I was the source
- for most of the stories that appeared that were critical of them.
- It was a synthetic duplication of the Warren Commission. It began
- with the intent (now, I'm not talking about each individual
- member. I'm talking about the staff who did it; especially
- Blakey, the general counsel and chief-of-staff) .... It began
- with the intent of putting down all the critics. Each hearing
- -- each public hearing -- began with what he called "the
- narration", and he picked out the critics whose work he was
- going to address, and then the hearing was dedicated to debunking
- them and proving them wrong. And I'm happy to say that there's
- only one critic he managed to avoid; and that's me. He wasn't
- going to pick a fight with me.
-
- All of their [the Committee's] work was faulted in varying
- degrees of ways, but they NEVER investigated the crime itself.
- In that, they did exactly what the FBI did, and exactly what
- the Warren Commission did. They did NOT -- any one of them --
- investigate the crime itself.
-
- Now, I think you should know that, unlike the other books,
- there are no theories in my book. I'm a former investigative
- reporter, a Senate investigator, an intelligence analyst; and
- that's not my bag. And I don't think that that's what the people
- of the country need for the democratic system to work. They're
- factual. Now, I'm going to quote, accurately from memory, a
- record I got through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit.
- Perhaps it would help your audience to understand more about
- where I'm coming from to say that I filed about a dozen Freedom
- of Information Act lawsuits against the Government. Most of them
- are on the Kennedy assassination. And most of the records I got
- were from the FBI. In all, I have about a third of a million
- pages of records. These are the same ones that Oliver Stone has
- been promoting for himself in his movie by saying that they're
- suppressed.
-
- Now, from the Department of Justice and from the FBI I got a
- record of a memorandum. Nicholas Katzenabach -- who was then
- the Deputy Attorney-General of the United States and acting
- Attorney-General as of the time in question, because Bobby
- Kennedy was not there because of the crime and the tragedy.
- He [Katzenbach] wrote Lyndon Johnson, through his [Johnson's]
- channel, Bill Moyers, recommending to Lyndon Johnson that they
- had to convince the country that Oswald was alone, that Oswald
- was the assassin, that he had no confederates who were still
- at-large, and that the evidence was such that he would be
- convicted in trial. The typed copy is dated early Monday morning
- the first working day after the assassination, November 25, 1963.
- I also happen to have gotten Katzenbach's handwritten copy, which
- he wrote when he had no typist available on Sunday. And from the
- FBI I got a record which said that Katzenbach had discussed it
- with [FBI Director] Hoover on Sunday, as soon as Oswald was killed.
-
- So as soon as the Government knew that there would be no trial of
- Lee Harvey Oswald, they closed the books, the crime was solved, and
- that was it. So you see, when the crime itself was never
- investigated, there are no leads for other people to follow. And I
- address this so that your audience can understand that those
- people, who develop theories and advance them as solutions, do it
- without a factual basis. I don't know of any theory that is
- factually supportable by the known evidence. And now I'm talking
- about the official investigative reports of the FBI and things
- like that which do establish some fact.
-
- GARY NULL:
- Okay, we thank you very much, Mr. Weisberg, for sharing your
- views and for giving us this insight on this important piece of
- critical information. I appreciate your being on with us today.
- Let's go now to another guest who is standing by, who has a
- different point of view, and who has additional information.
- I would like to invite Jim Marrs [author of CROSSFIRE] onto our
- program again. Welcome to our program, Jim.
-
- I'd like to pick up where we left off yesterday. For those of you
- who were not here yesterday and who didn't hear the program, we did
- a careful assessment, going step-by-step through the events that
- led up to the actual shooting, showing that the American Public
- has never been made aware of the fact that earlier in the day, in
- Fort Worth, there was also a motorcade for President Kennedy, but
- that motorcade was substantially different. It was VERY very
- heavily guarded, on proper protocol, by the Secret Service. And the
- police were maintained, meaning that sharpshooters were stationed on
- rooftops, no window was allowed to be opened, there was adequate
- protection. But all of that was suspended at Dealey Plaza and for
- the trip through Dallas. WHY? WHO was responsible? Who caused
- the rescinding of these orders? Those are questions that have to
- be thoroughly analyzed.
-
- I would like just a brief summary of some of the points from
- yesterday -- an overview of some of the discrepancies between
- what we have been led to believe and what actually occurred.
- Then I would like to go into the area that our previous guest,
- Mr. Harold Weisberg has suggested -- that there is NO evidence
- to support any of the assassination theories. I would like you to
- give us YOUR information, your belief, and whatever documentation
- you have that could, in any way, directly or indirectly, tie in
- any of a number of proposed agendas such as the renegade CIA
- agents, the knowledge that FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover could
- have known or may have known in advance that the assassination
- was imminent, certain right-wing extremists, certain members of
- the military, and also members of Organized Crime, and some
- anti-Castro Cubans.
-
- Now, all of these have been alleged -- depending upon the theorist
- -- to have participated. But you have some unique insights and
- and I would like you to share with us some of those insights at
- this time.
- (to be continued)
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- Transcribed by John DiNardo
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