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- From: joet@dcatlas.dot.gov (Joe Trott)
- Subject: Re: GUIs Considered Harmful
- Message-ID: <1992Sep4.142324.6554@dcatlas.dot.gov>
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- Organization: U.S Dept. of Transportation
- References: <1992Aug30.155725.3241@kilowatt.uucp> <a1BHqB7w165w@mantis.co.uk> <1992Sep3.194407.15771@nntp.uoregon.edu> <1992Sep3.224317.8523@Princeton.EDU> <1992Sep3.204645.25303@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>
- Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:23:24 GMT
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- ematias@dgp.toronto.edu (Edgar Matias) writes:
-
- >The *real* problem is that the keyboard is a two-handed device.
- >Engelbart's original intent was that the mouse be used in conjunction
- >with a one-handed keyboard. Unforturnately, most systems do not come
- >with one-handed keyboards. Fortunately, you don't need to buy one to
- >achieve the same thing. There is a software solution to this problem...
-
- I suppose this could work, and fairly well. I've read about a number of
- one-handed alternate input methods. Unfortunately, it has been a dozen
- years since I might have tried something like that. I have lost
- _considerable_ coordination in my left hand (although I still manage 40-50
- wpm even on a bad day). The point of this is something that I am finally
- beginning to see in this thread. *People are Different*. It may be 'fun'
- to enjoy a good flamefest from time to time, but some of the arguments here
- are of random validity, depending on to whom they are applied.
-
- This of course won't stop me from a mild slam at the gooey proponents. I
- don't think anyone is attempting to defend the use of GUIs in *applications*
- that warrant them, such as graphics tools. It seems pretty clear to me
- that the argument concerns the _operating system_ interface; i.e. how we
- run our computers, _not_ individual applications. Who knows; maybe there's
- an application out there whose "best" interface would be a row of
- thumbwheels. I don't think anyone would argue that thumbwheels should
- thus also be used as the operating system interface (now watch somebody
- try...:-)). So you needn't waste bandwidth defending the GUI as the
- appropriate interface to a Paint program.
-
- It also seems you are picking on the CLI for faults not of CLIs in general,
- but of the lack of standards across CLIs. That problem is true of GUIs
- too, so that one ought to be a wash. It isn't a CLI problem just because
- one uses "erase", another: "kill", and a third uses "destroy" when what they
- all mean is "delete (a file)".
-
- -JTT
-
- There can be no undefeated Evil when Reason prevails.
-
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