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- From: fj05+@andrew.cmu.edu (Faisal Nameer Jawdat)
- Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc,comp.windows.news,comp.windows.x,comp.human-factors,alt.religion.computers
- Subject: Re: GUIs Considered Harmful
- Message-ID: <oefiyZO00VAt5mSIYY@andrew.cmu.edu>
- Date: 9 Sep 92 22:48:05 GMT
- Article-I.D.: andrew.oefiyZO00VAt5mSIYY
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- <1992Sep9.235620.25510@spider.co.uk>
- Organization: Sophomore, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
- Lines: 22
- In-Reply-To: <1992Sep9.235620.25510@spider.co.uk>
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- mark@spider.co.uk (Mark Valentine) writes:
- >
- > Scrollbars are another GUI feature that seem simply to waste real estate
- > most of the time. Most people I point it out to are pleasantly surprised
- > to learn that SHIFT-PGUP does the sensible thing by default in xterm (well,
- > half-sensible, I customised it to go a full page). What's more, no scroll-
- > bar I've seen has given me the ease of control that a simple pair of keys
- > give me (back about four pages? blam, blam, blam, blam! oops, missed it
- > there, blam! gotcha!!).
-
- off topic:
- not to mention a blatant NeXT plug:
- NeXT scrollbars are the ONLY good implementation of this I have seen -
- click somewhere in the scroll space and the bar moves right there (the
- bar is also sized proportionally to the visible space / scrollable
- space ratio), move the bar by dragging it around, and the workspace
- (text, picture, whatever) moves accordingly, smoothly, and at the
- correct rate (1:1k mapping, where k is the proportion between the
- scrollable distance on the bar and in the scrolled object), and the
- buttons at the ends of the scrollbar are in pairs so if you miss and
- have to back up, you just move 1/8 inch, not all the way to the other
- end of the bar
-