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- From: allard@isi.edu (Dennis Allard)
- Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
- Subject: Re: 386bsd -- The New Newsgroup
- Message-ID: <22376@venera.isi.edu>
- Date: 11 Sep 92 22:29:06 GMT
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- terry@cs.weber.edu (A Wizard of Earth C) writes:
- > allard@isi.edu (Dennis Allard) writes:
- > ... In the case of gigabyte networks, that place need not have
- > >anything to do with 386bsd, ...except in so far as it deals
- > >with 386bsd implementation issues.
- >
- > How about BSD? By the same argument, the place need not have anything to
- > do with 386bsd except in so far as it deals with 386 implementation issues.
- >
- > Sounds like an argument against moving away from comp.unix.bsd.
-
- I didn't mean it to sound that way. I happen to favor moving out of
- comp.unix.bsd, based on my understanding of USENET convention and
- newsgroup naming precedents (however limited my understanding of those
- conventions may be). I am not a militant on this issue, however.
-
- I would point out that there are three semi-independent dimensions
- (at least) which cause a newsgroup to exist.
-
- 1. Some newsgroups are roughly isomorphic to 'user communities'
- centered around some system or concept. This is an issue of social
- togetherness. It happens in nonelectronic life, too. People at Apple
- and people at IBM study networking, but do it seperately (in the pre
- Pink era anyway :)). They each form a distinct social group. This is
- what Lynne Jolitz (I think) is proposing for the 386bsd subgroups.
- People who are together as concerns 386bsd *and* who want to also work
- together on certain computer science problems, using 386bsd as a
- social centrum.
-
- 2. Some newsgroups are explicitly devoted to a technical subject.
-
- 3. Some newsgroups are explicitly devoted to system administration
- and implementation.
-
- If I am interested in ppp, I subscribe to comp.protocols.ppp. If I
- want to see ppp run under 386bsd, I will follow any ppp thread I will
- see under comp.os.386bsd. In so far as I am starting to participate
- in the 386bsd social community, I will monitor everything of interest
- to me in comp.os.386bsd.
-
- I am only arguing to be very careful about creating groups which
- contain the cross product of reasons 2 and 3, while acknowledging that
- reason 1 does naturally lead to such fragmentation.
-
- My main point is that splitting 386bsd will not be easy, may not be
- desirable, and should only occur without undue presciption. As for
- seperating 386bsd from bsd, it is already happening!. Based, of
- course, on the fact that the 386bsd user community has already copted
- comp.unix.bsd as its forum.
-
- Dennis
- allard@isi.edu
-