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- From: stripes@pix.com (Josh Osborne)
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- Subject: Re: Shared Libs for X11?, was Re: 386bsd -- The New Newsgroup
- Keywords: shared libraries X X11
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- Date: 11 Sep 92 21:46:18 GMT
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- In article <7dnL02y821gh01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> gab10@griffincd.amdahl.com (Gary A Browning) writes:
- [...]
- [...SVR3 uses fixed addresses, SVR4/SunOS uses PIC...]
- >I tend to dislike the SysVr3 method since I got the impression that the source
- >code had to be written differently (though I am not sure why). I also noted
- >that the GCC-2.2.2 compiler I just got compiled can produce PIC code which
- >would be one of the major hurdles for the SysVr4 method.
- >
- >Any knowledgable person want to talk a little more about the pros and cons of
- >these two (or any other) approach?
-
- PIC code runs slower on some CPU's (ones that don't do PC indexed load/stores
- as fast as dirrect load/stores, in fact I bet *some* code can't be PIC'ed
- as fast as abs'ed on any CPU, but I won't be much).
-
- Shared libs linked to an absolute address (a) are hard to update (you can't
- change the entry points), and (b) all shared libs must be maped to diffrent
- places, or they won't work together (i.e. libc can't overlap libX11, and if
- libgdb overlaps libXt, then you can't link with both libXt and libgdb...).
-
- I'm not sure why you would need to write absolute address'ed shared libs
- diffrently from PIC'ed ones, but I know both have some problems with
- staticly allocated local variables (but this is implmention dependent).
-
- I susspect that absolute addressed shared libs are easyer to implment. Nither
- should need support from the kernel, but it may be easyer/faster to do it
- that way. (I am assuming that we have a working mmap...).
-
- >Anyone kept up with the Linux discussions of shared library implementations?
- >Can you summarize?
-
- Sorry, I don't know a thing about them.
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