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- From: sef@kithrup.COM (Sean Eric Fagan)
- Subject: Re: AT&T Long Distance Boycott (was: BNR2SS, Mach, and The Lawsuit)
- Organization: Kithrup Enterprises, Ltd.
- Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 19:18:20 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Sep08.191820.4408@kithrup.COM>
- References: <QA2J6LM@taronga.com> <1992Sep08.085437.419@kithrup.COM> <1992Sep8.164622.21761@gateway.novell.com>
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- In article <1992Sep8.164622.21761@gateway.novell.com> terry@thisbe.Eng.Sandy.Novell.COM (Terry Lambert) writes:
- > What about the termcap file itself?
-
- Hate to tell you this, but I have seen applications that came with their own
- termcap (or termcap equivalent) file. Yes, the whole thing.
-
- Next complaint?
-
- > VMS doesn't support the concept of SUID/SGID necessary from most
- >things, like score files in games. Instead, you have to install the image
- >with priveledges (ie: I can't make an SUID "terry" program; only an SUID
- >SYSTEM with some priveledges).
-
- Gosh. Then I guess the fact that such things were in the last VMS I checked
- was my imagination, huh? Yes, amazing as it seems, the POSIX work done to
- VMS is real, and it works, and it does make it look a lot more like a UNIX
- system.
-
- > The total lack of a CBREAK mode disallows single character I/O,
- >unless you are willing to call SYS$QIO() directly. Raw mode requires a
- >QIO with IO$_SENSEMODE/IO$_SETMODE.
-
- Here's another concept you and Peter seem to be missing: wrapper libraries.
- The VMS POSIX stuff has termios, which allows single character I/O the same
- was as on a SysV system (well, kinda).
-
- > o Open a file created with a text editor (this will insure
- > it is a variable length record file with implied carriage
- > return carriage control).
- [deleted]
-
- Works fine. Oh? Don't you use the correct port of emacs?
-
- > MMDF (Multi-Memorandum Distribution Facility) ... OK, it stinks, but
- >it's what you asked for.
-
- trn works with mmdf. I haven't stuck the code in trn yet, because there
- isn't a need. Note that MMDF won't work on a lot of systems because it is
- highly UNIX dependent, and if you claim a POSIX-dependent application isn't
- going to work on a non-UNIX system, then I don't see how you can think that
- something like MMDF will. (Networking? IPC? fork() and exec()? setuid()?
- seteuid()? Huh? What are those?)
-
- --
- Sean Eric Fagan | "You can't get lost in one room, no matter how
- sef@kithrup.COM | little effort you make to learn your way around."
- -----------------+ -- William E Davidsen (william@crd.GE.COM)
- Any opinions expressed are my own, and generally unpopular with others.
-