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- From: haedener@iacrs1.unibe.ch (Konrad Haedener)
- Subject: Re: more on PTF hell
- Message-ID: <1992Sep15.145845.5520@aragorn.unibe.ch>
- Followup-To: <1992Sep15.120620.2323@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>
- Keywords: U403376 U403377 U403378 U403380 U403381
- Sender: haedener@iacrs1 (Konrad Haedener)
- Reply-To: haedener@iacrs1.unibe.ch
- Organization: University of Berne
- References: <1992Sep14.203136.22144@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> <1992Sep15.120620.2323@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>
- Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:58:45 GMT
- Lines: 129
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- In article <1992Sep15.120620.2323@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>, dedourek@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (John DeDourek) writes:
- |>
- |> I am not sure what information you are looking for about these PTF's.
- |> What I usually want to know first, is what they are supposed to fix.
- |> Unfortunately, I have not been able to figure out how to find out
- |> BEFORE I apply them. After they are applied :-( nuts), the command
-
- [ text deleted ]
-
- You can certainly do that using smit:
-
- Installation and Maintenance
- Standard Installation & Maintenance
- Software Installation & Maintenance
- List All Problems Fixed by Software on Installation Media
-
- smit invokes installp with proper switches _without_ installing anything.
-
- |> John DeDourek
- |> dedourek@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca
-
- The actual problem is with the bundling of PTFs as currently practiced
- by IBM. I always thought the key idea was to have _selective_ updates,
- but look at what I received today as the famous amd fix:
-
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402027.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U404984.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U405867.
- bosadt.lib.obj 3.2.0.0.U404116.
- bosadt.lib.obj 3.2.0.0.U404322.
- bosext2.acct.obj 3.2.0.0.U404902.
- bosadt.lib.obj 3.2.0.0.U404918.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U407546.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402211.
- bosnet.tcpip.obj 3.2.0.0.U406325.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U404727.
- hanfs.obj 3.2.0.0.U403233.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U401986.
- bosadt.lib.obj 3.2.0.0.U402035.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U404554.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U405502.
- bosadt.lib.obj 3.2.0.0.U402385.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U401980.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402371.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402515.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U401864.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402156.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U401979.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402191.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402478.
- bosadt.lib.obj 3.2.0.0.U403303.
- X11rte.obj 1.2.0.0.U402470.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U401969.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402098.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402208.
- hanfs.obj 3.2.0.0.U404106.
- bosext2.acct.obj 3.2.0.0.U405566.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402761.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U403265.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U404298.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402153.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U405803.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402731.
- bosext1.extcmds.data 3.2.0.0.U402611.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402367.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402536.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402044.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402157.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U403766.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U404380.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U404382.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402477.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U403104.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U403088.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402398.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U403285.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402093.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402341.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U403244.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402336.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402489.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402634.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402344.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402315.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U404307.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U406878.
- bosext1.extcmds.obj 3.2.0.0.U402609.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402381.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402842.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U404528.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402476.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U403101.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U403108.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402108.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402345.
- bosext1.extcmds.obj 3.2.0.0.U405554.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U403173.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U402413.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U406852.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U406518.
- bosnet.tcpip.obj 3.2.0.0.U406646.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U406700.
- bosnet.tcpip.obj 3.2.0.0.U406848.
- bosadt.lib.obj 3.2.0.0.U406877.
- bosnet.snmpd.obj 3.2.0.0.U405299.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U406133.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U406571.
- bosext1.csh.obj 3.2.0.0.U407535.
- bosadt.lib.obj 3.2.0.0.U406435.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U405848.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U403342.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U406855.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U406849.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U403441.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U407553.
- bos.obj 3.2.0.0.U407529.
-
- We are speaking of 33 MB on a 1/4" tape. The list of all IX2nnnn with a one
- line description of each fix contained in this update covers _7_ printed A4
- pages! The vast majority of fixes bundled with this update have nothing
- (really) to do with amd.
-
- Earlier on I have claimed AIX software distribution to be a mess. I'd like
- to hear some words of wisdom from IBM explaining their update/fix philosophy.
- --
- Konrad Haedener Phone: +41 31 65 42 25
- Institute for Physical Chemistry FAX: +41 31 65 44 99
- University of Berne
- Switzerland haedener@iacrs1.unibe.ch
-