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- From: shrchin@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk (Jonathan H. N. Chin)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
- Subject: slave forwarding DNS
- Message-ID: <shrchin.716272610@reading>
- Date: 12 Sep 92 04:36:50 GMT
- Sender: news@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk
- Organization: University of Reading
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- I am new to admin'ing, and am looking for some advice with an annoyance
- I have run into. The last problem I posted about (restoring backups from
- a tape that wouldn't read) resolved itself when the other set of backups
- suddenly became readable after a weekend of attempting to read them.
- Thanks to all the people who mailed me suggestions then.
-
- We have a small network of 16 suns and numerous PCs and Archimedes.
-
- One IPC (morpock) exports the important filesystems (like /home,
- /var/spool/mail and various /usr directories) and is also the NIS server.
- Nobody except root is allowed to log onto this machine and the machine
- is prom-protected.
-
- Another IPC (skund) has two ethernet cards and is the interface to the
- outside world. ip_forwarding is switched off in the kernel, and users must
- log onto this machine to connect to/from the outside world from/to
- our system. This machine is the mail server. It is also prom-protected.
-
- I have been attempting to find away to allow telnet, ftp, etc on skund
- to use the DNS service provided by the computer services department of the
- Uni. Creating an /etc/resolv.conf file with the appropriate address works
- for nslookup, but fails for telnet, ftp, etc.
-
- I have changed the Makefile in /var/yp on morpock to #define B=-b as it
- says to do to no avail. Putting an /etc/resolv.conf on morpock to point to
- the outside world would not work, and I assume that pointing to skund would
- require skund to be running in.named.
-
- The ideas I came up with either do not appear to work, or would be troublesome
- to maintain, or would weaken the already fragile security that exists:
-
- 1) make skund into a slave forwarding DNS resolver.
- After creating an /etc/resolv.conf file on morpock pointing to skund,
- I created the config file on skund that the admin/networking manual said to:
-
- /etc/named.boot:
- forwarding 134.225.2.4 134.225.2.1 ; machines to get names from
- slave ; tell named not to bother looking up anything locally
-
- and ran in.named but I still get "unknown host" when attempting telnet, ftp.
-
- 2) make skund a slave NIS server.
- Would solve the name lookup problem (I think) but would create other problems.
- We have lots of CS students next door, and every year a couple of them attempt
- to wreak havoc there. Their sysadmin tells me that the extent of their security
- (just about) is to protect their NIS server.
- ergo: this solution doesn't seem too sensible.
-
- 3) make skund into a DNS name-server.
- Boy, that is hard work. Also seems like overkill since I dont need any
- of our machines to be visible to the outside world (except skund which
- already is).
-
- 4) "switch off" NIS on skund.
- Difficult to maintain extra sets of passwords, hosts tables, etc and
- would conceivably be as vulnerable as running a NIS server on the machine
- in the first place. Also might not work since NIS is the bit that looks
- to DNS, and if NIS isn't running the libraries won't. (I think)
-
- 5) create a front end to all the system commands that take numbers or names.
- Would involve creating a front end to each command that replaces the name
- with the number. Something like:
-
- skund% FTP susssys1.rdg.ac.uk
-
- which would take the address, do the lookup and return the number, then call
- the real routine. Might even be better to write a script like:
-
- skund% TO susssys1.rdg.ac.uk ftp WHERE
-
- or:
-
- skund% TO susssys1.rdg.ac.uk telnet WHERE 6969
-
- that performs the nslookup, extracts the relevant information and calls
- the command with "WHERE" replaced by the number.
- This would be easy to do, but would require the user to master additional
- information. Also it is ugly.
-
- I would prefer to get (1) to work as it would seem to be the nicest solution.
- If anyone can explain to me how to get it working I would be eternally grateful
- for five minutes. It would be nice to understand where I went wrong.
-
- Otherwise, I will probably write the shell script for (5) and leave it at that.
-
- PS. don't blame me for the machine names. I inherited them from the previous admin.
-
- thanks in advance,
- Jonathan
- aka root@cyber.rdg.ac.uk
- --
- Jonathan H N Chin (9 kyu) \ Dept. of Cybernetics, \ "Respondeo, etsi mutabor"
- shrchin@uk.ac.rdg.susssys1 \ University of Reading \
- bq305@cleveland.freenet.edu \ Box 225, Whiteknights \ < Rosenstock-Huessy >
- jockstrap,mandy@CyberSpaceII \ Reading, RG6 2AY, U K \
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