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- From: HERBER@fnalf.fnal.gov (Randolph J. Herber, CD/DCD/USS, x2966)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
- Subject: Re: X Terminal: I want my WorkSpace! --I have the opposite opinion.
- Message-ID: <32494@adm.brl.mil>
- Date: 9 Sep 92 19:01:18 GMT
- Sender: news@adm.brl.mil
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- +From: "John H. Chauvin" <jchauvin@netcom.com>
- +Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
- +Subject: X Terminal: I want my WorkSpace!
- +Date: 6 Sep 92 03:09:34 GMT
-
- I want to make it very clear: I am speaking for myself personally;
- I know that many if not almost all of my organization feel otherwise!
-
- I strongly dislike systems where I can not make the GUI's and menuing
- systems "stay out of my hear"! I feel them extremely hard to use because of
- their inflexibility and obscurity. Give me man pages and a command interface.
-
- I own a AT&T 3B1. One of the first things I did was disable the GUI, "ua".
-
- I am quoting John H. Chauvin only to illustrate an opposing opinion to mine.
- The material was picked for no other purpose. I do not feel that his opinion
- is "wrong" or should not have been stated. I just disagree that GUIs improve
- the usability of systems in general.
-
- + [The users]
- +find it very comforting and it does ease the transition
- +to unix.
-
- +My understanding is that most SGI users are "power unix users"
- +who have no need for a GUI. Well if SGI want to expand its
- +market share it must address the useability issue.
- +(Other vendors are!) You can at least offer it. Users can decide
- +for themselves if they want to use it.
-
- I agree with what you said. I disagree with your conclusion. GUI's are useful
- for people who want to do only a "few" standardized operations. GUI's are
- useful and work well in commerical environments where the firm wants to
- minimize training time and wants its applications done in a standardized
- manner. Even I would strongly consider a GUI for this kind of usage.
-
- When I am writing new applications or systems, I do not want to be bound
- to whatever the author of a GUI thought the "five or six" kinds of operations
- a computer is good for were.
-
- Instead give systems good strong documentation (the famous RTFM) and a
- flexible and powerful command interface. Strong tools to make writing GUI's
- easy may and should be added after that is done.
-
- The system installation procedure should allow the installer the choice of
- whether or not to install any GUI and the default should be not to install
- one at all. The system must remain usable and useful without a GUI. It
- is proper that a system may be more useful with a GUI than without one.
-
- +John H. Chauvin jchauvin@netcom.COM
- +Netcom - Online Communication Services San Jose, CA
-
- Randolph J. Herber, herber@fnalf.fnal.gov, +1 708 840 2966
- (identification to show affliation only; I am not speaking of any organization.)
- (Speaking for myself and not for US, US DOE, FNAL nor URA.)
- (Product, trade, or service marks herein belong to their respective owners.)
-