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- From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
- Subject: Re: getty vs tip on ttyda -- an old story
- Message-ID: <1992Sep7.022750.2858@cube.handheld.com>
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- Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
- References: <1992Sep7.003326.1873@proforma.com>
- Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 02:27:50 GMT
- Lines: 53
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- In article <1992Sep7.003326.1873@proforma.com> jgg@proforma.com (J. G. Gregory)
- writes:
- > I trying to set up a NeXT for dialin on ttyda, via a Hayes 2400 modem. This
- is
- > for UUCP, but that is irrelevant, I believe.
- >
- > Two years ago, when I tried to do this, I ran into the problem whereby when
- the
- > getty was turned "on" for ttyda, it would not "block waiting for DCD to be
- > asserted", and would spit the login: prompt out immediately upon being reset.
- > This was on a 68030, and I proved that EVEN WITH NOTHING CONNECTED, this
- > behavior would occur. i.e., it was not the cable or the modem. Despite my
- > hopes, it was not solved with the 68040 upgrade or any of the software
- > releases.
- >
- > Since that time, a message appeared on the net regarding this problem, and I
- > snarfed off, knowing I would come by this path again. Here is the relevant
- > part of that post:
- >
- > > open(2) does indeed block as advertised, but only if you have a
- > > device connected to the port which ties the DCD pin LOW (ground
- > > state). By default, the port will float DCD HIGH (asserted or
- > > "true")... To simulate this, connect the DCD pin to ground via
- > > a dropping resistor (say 1k ohm). voila! open blocks. Disconnect
- > > the resistor and voila! the open goes through. Check what your
- > > attached device does. You may be surprised.
- >
- > Now, how do I get everything to work as advertised? Can the modem be set to
- > hold the DCD low (it is set per the docs, &C1)? Will the resistor trick work
- > other than for just a test? While I have real problems understanding why a
- > dropping resistor is necessary on a NeXT with a Hayes modem (spent extra to
- get
- > modem NeXT mentioned), I can put it on if I have to. But there has got to be
- a
- > better way. Does any know what it is?
- >
- As I read it, the advice above is demonstrating how to prove DCD control does
- work. It is not meant to be used in an actual installation. What he's saying
- is that with nothing connected to the DCD line, it will float in the direction
- that does not block the open. You need to check you modem's DCD line control,
- most modems default to always asserting that line true. Read through the AT
- command set, or on older modems, check the dip switches!
-
- > I would also like to hear from people who are successfully using a NeXT with
- > both dialin and dialout working (without editing /etc/ttys in between).
- >
- I'm using yrrid's ttydsp on an '030 at 57.6kbs with a v.32bis/v.42bis modem
- with no problems. ;-)
-
- > Thanks in advance.
- > --J Gregory
-
- Jim
-