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- From: mmelling@Trirex.com(Michael Mellinger)
- Subject: Re: anyone have an opinion about executor...
- Message-ID: <1992Sep11.205829.1096@Trirex.COM>
- Sender: root@Trirex.COM (Operator)
- Organization: Trirex Systems Inc.
- References: <1992Sep9.225708.23821@tandem.com>
- Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:58:29 GMT
- Lines: 228
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- In article <1992Sep9.225708.23821@tandem.com> chop_michael@tandem.com
- (Michael Chop) writes:
- > hi,
- >
- > i'd like to hear about executor, the mac emulator. the demo is pretty
- cute, but how does it fare actually running other software. speed,
- printing, system software, inits, blah blah blah...
- >
- > come to think about it, is it still available?
-
-
- I don't use it a whole lot but I think that it's pretty cool. It's much
- better than SoftPC. The pricing policy has change and $360 will now get
- you everything. Here's the latest release blurb from the mailing list.
-
- ==============
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- Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 22:11:09 MDT
- From: uunet!unmvax.cs.unm.edu!iclone!ctm (Clifford T. Matthews)
- To: ictv.com!executor@unmvax.cs.unm.edu
- Subject: Status of 1.2.1 and upcoming Price Change
-
- Dear Folks,
-
- Here's the status of 1.2.1:
-
- The binders and slipcases are back from the printers
- The manual is at the printers
- All new features have been added and debugged
- A very small handful of critical bugs are still being fixed
- Our ad in the upcoming NeXTWORLD has been finished and sent
- Our dealers are in the process of learning what Executor's
- all about
-
- We hope to put everything together starting next week. Originally the
- plans were to have the manuals back on Monday, but there was some
- confusion and it's not clear the printer can make that deadline.
-
- Here is a list of all the commercial software that we have been working
- with of late. Some of this is borrowed and will have to be returned soon,
- but we expect to get much more software to test, once our ad is out in
- NeXTWORLD and we look real enough for ISV's to send us their software.
-
- Has been tested, runs very well:
- Where in Time is Carmen Sandiego 1.0
- Crystal Quest 2.20Z
- Excel 3.0A
- Excel 4.0
- Managing Your Money 4.0
- MacLinkPlus PC 6.0 (Translators only)
- Word 4.0{D,E}
- Word 5.0
- Leprechaun 3.0 (Needs Pretend Sound)
- Quicken 3.0
- SimAnt 1.0
- Resorcerer 1.0
-
- Hasn't been tested much, runs pretty well:
- CricketGraph 1.3.2
- FileMakerPro 1.0v2
- FractaSketch 1.39
- Fontographer 3.5
- MacInTax 1992 9.01
- MacPaint 2.0 (has printing problems)
- MacProjectII 2.5v1 (has printing problems)
- MacWriteII 1.1v1
- MacMoney V3.52
- MacMoneyBeta
- MandelMovie 1.88
- SuperPaint 1.1MS (requires Refresh)
- Resolve
- TeachText 1.2 (has printing problems)
-
-
- Hasn't been tested much, limps:
- ClarisCad scrolling problems
- HyperCard varied
- MacDrawII scrolling problems
- MacDrawPro scrolling problems
- PageMaker varied
- Quark XPress varied
-
- Does not run at all:
- GreatWorks bad trap patching
- InteractivePhysicsII I don't yet know
- MacGraphX makes color calls we don't have
- Nisus bad trap patching
- Studio1 I don't yet know
- ThinkC 4.0 Not 32-bit clean (we don't have
- 5.0)
-
- Here is a list of publicly redistributable (shareware, freeware, demoware)
- that we've been testing on.
-
- Has been tested, runs very well:
- Amazing
- Artillery
- BinHex v5.0
- BlackBox
- Cairo ShootOut
- Engel's Enigma
- Globe
- GunShy 1.0
- Hangman 9.0
- Hot Air Baloon 2.1
- IAGO
- KillerFrogs DEMO
- MacYahtzee
- Mines
- Missle Game
- MotorBike
- Precision Cribbage
- Reversi
- Risk
- Shanghai DEMO 2.0
- Stuntcopter 1.2
- Units
- A-S Baseball
- blackjack 2.0
- Darts
- LawnZapper
- Lazlife 2.0c
- Phraze Craze
- SilverFingers DEMO
- Super MANDELZOOM 1.0
-
-
- Hasn't been tested much, runs pretty well:
- 1000 Miles (has cache problems when doing "About ...")
- KaleidaGraph 2.0 DEMO
- Orion V1.0
- Pleiades 1.0
- ResorcererDEMO 1.0
- SimCity DEMO
- Speedometer 3.01
- TeleWar DEMO (Needs Refresh, can't use serial ports)
- Biorhythm II (can't print)
-
- Hasn't been tested much, limps:
- Backgammon (has bad code; will die unexpectedly)
- DiskLib 1.82
- More 1.1c DEMO
- MultiFlow II 1.0 DEMO
- Write Idea DEMO
-
- Does not run at all:
- Monopoly V4.0
- Canfield 2.0 (has cache problems)
- Adventure (weird use of TextEdit)
- Arkanoid (can't allocate alternate audio and sound buffers)
- Dungeon of Doom (not 32-bit clean)
- Galaxis 1.02 (Executes _AddDrive trap)
- MacBzone 1.3.1 (SIGFPE in CopyBits)
- MacMan 1.0.2 (jumps to location 0)
- Polyominoes (quits)
- Stuffit 1.5 (doesn't like our filesystem)
- Zork (weird use of TextEdit)
-
- We also have a couple of CD-ROMs of Publicly Distributable stuff that we
- test under Executor. Once we're back in the black, we'll buy the latest
- BMUG or BCS CD-ROM and start testing that stuff a little more
- methodically. Executor 1.2.1 and the copy of HFS_XFer supplied with it
- will read Mac formatted CD-ROMs.
-
- Feel free to send us additions or corrections to our list. Once 1.2.1 is
- out we're going to try to get a new copy of the list out to our dealers
- every month.
-
- Executor 1.3 should be out at the end of this year, or early in the new
- year. It will take advantage of NeXTSTEP 3.0 better than 1.2.1 does and
- should have many more applications running under it.
-
- ==========================================================================
- =
-
- Beginning October 1, we will be discontinue our pricing scheme that is
- based on the number of "big ticket" apps you wish to run. We've had
- problems explaining that pricing scheme since day one. To be honest,
- several people advised us against such a scheme, but I personally thought
- it was worth trying. We will Grandfather in all the people who have
- already purchased Executor under that scheme, but you will not be entitled
- to free upgrades. The new retail price is $360 for a copy of Executor
- that attempts to run anything, but still has the compatibility problems
- described above. However, that price includes a year of free upgrades,
- and in that time we honestly expect to have most things running
- exceedingly well. The educational price is $180; you get exactly what the
- non-educational people get, but your floppy, slipcase and manual are
- stamped "Educational Version". College and University students and
- faculty qualify for the educational prices.
-
- Note, the above prices are retail, it is expected that some dealers will
- offer discounts. Because of this, we've changed our program for
- conversion from limited copies to unrestricted copies:
-
- If you qualify for an educational discount, then we will upgrade you to an
- unrestricted version for $140 minus what you've already paid per copy.
- If you've already paid more than that, we'll try to work something out (we
- don't want our early supporters to feel cheated). This means that any
- educational user who has paid for Word and Excel support will
- automatically be converted to unrestricted support, and get free updates
- until October 1993. Most of these conversions will be done automatically
- when we ship Executor 1.2.1 and our new binders/slipcases/manuals.
- However, it doesn't hurt to send us proof of educational userness.
-
- If you don't qualify for an educational discount, the above paragraph
- applies to you, except the difference is from $280. We have definitely
- sold some unrestricted versions at a higher price, and we will be
- contacting those individuals to discuss the situation (if you're one of
- them, you can e-mail us or call us). Again, we don't want our early
- customers to feel cheated by buying early.
-
- ==========================================================================
-
- A letter detailing the above changes will be sent with your copy of
- Executor 1.2.1. I hope you understand why we're changing things the way
- we are. I believe we'll all profit from this change, since the added
- revenue will allow us to progress to complete emulation significantly
- faster.
-
- As always, your comments are appreciated. This mailing list has been
- awfully quiet of late; I've had my head firmly embedded in our emulator
- since I got back from my non-honeymoon (we didn't go anywhere, but I
- stayed away from computers for a week).
-
- --Cliff ctm@ardi.com
-
-