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- From: ctm@unmvax.cs.unm.edu (Clifford T. Matthews)
- Subject: Re: Break from the past
- Message-ID: <1992Sep14.235738.10525@unmvax.cs.unm.edu>
- Sender: ctm@unmvax.cs.unm.edu (Clifford T. Matthews)
- Organization: University of New Mexico
- Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 23:57:38 GMT
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- [I decided to post only after flipping a coin. I plan to flip a coin
- before each successive post to this thread and not post any more to this
- thread if tails comes up. The good news is that it's fairly unlikely
- (12.5%) that I'll post three more letters in this thread; the bad news is
- that everytime you see one, there's a 50% chance that you'll see another^1!]
-
- Dear Folks,
-
- David Pollack "wholeheartedly disagree(d) with the concept behind" my most
- recent post. In order to save net bandwidth, I'd sum up my last post as
- "keep an open mind, explore all alternatives before making up your mind."
- However, that sounds reasonable, yet David disagreed with my post, so I'll
- have to assume that my post could have been interpretted otherwise (go check
- quick before your expirenews eats it).
-
- David listed the "greatest advances" in the computer marketplace:
- The Apple ][, Visicalc, Xerox Star, and Lisa. This list was followed by
- the maxim "Living *WITH* the past is important ... Living *IN* the past is
- bad." Subtly this is interesting, because the elements in his list of
- products all share the property of having stopped evolving. Contrast this
- to Executor, which provides emulation of a currently evolving platform and
- in the context of spreadsheets provides access to a currently evolving
- application. An application that David describes thus: "Excel is a great
- product (when 4.0 came out, I was astounded at its quality.)" [this is
- from a different post]. It's also an admission that using NeXT technology
- isn't *always* appropriate, for if it were, David would have used RTF with
- bold or italic to emphasize "with" and "in". Compatibility is always an
- issue.
-
- Executor is evolving, as is Excel, which is available through Executor. I
- don't believe this is living in the past. It's more akin to living in a
- different country. Some people refuse to purchase cars built outside of
- the U.S. Some people refuse to purchase cars built in the U.S. Interestingly
- enough, the distinction w.r.t. cars has blurred substantially over the last
- ten years.
-
- I have some trouble with this statement:
-
- I think that we should support the revolution that is NeXT.
- Yes, we must run certain packages until they become available
- on the NeXT (accounting, page layout, etc.) but we should not expect
- to use a product like Executor into the indefinite future.
-
- because it appears to assume one of two things. One assumption is that
- evolution has stopped in Executor, the platform Executor emulates or the
- applications that Executor brings are static. If that's not the anti-Executor
- assumption, then the other one that comes to mind is that once an application
- is available natively on the NeXT it should be supported. The key thing
- here is the distinction between "become available" and "outperform non-native
- applications".
-
- I'm not sure what David thinks of my knowledge of the state of computing:
-
- P.S. Cliff, interoperation just got more difficult under
- NS 3.0. Interopertion is not simply RTF cut and paste,
- but live data links. Mesa goes one step above live updates right
- into live spreadsheet views in other programs.
-
- The sentence did not live up to its ostensible purpose, to provide me with
- more information about interoperation. I don't think my last post claimed
- or even implied that "interoperation is simply RTF cut and paste". We are
- selling competing products. There are many axis on which to rate spreadsheets.
- I have consistently encouraged people to examine all the choices, including
- Mesa.
-
- I think there's a diffference between living in the present and living in
- the "real soon now". Executor provides today what many people want today.
- It will always be our intention to provide what people want, so of course
- I intend that Executor tomorrow will provide what people want tomorrow.
- You'll do the same with Mesa, and Microsoft will do the same with Excel
- (perhaps even coming out with a native or hybrid port of their own).
-
- --Cliff
-
- __________________
- 1 The really bad news is that I have a two headed-coin. Just kidding.
-