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- From: ctm@ardi.com (Clifford T. Matthews)
- Subject: Re: Spreadsheets (was Mesa vs. Appsoft)
- Message-ID: <1992Sep13.003355.18481@unmvax.cs.unm.edu>
- Sender: ctm@unmvax.cs.unm.edu (Clifford T. Matthews)
- Organization: ARDI
- Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 00:33:55 GMT
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-
- Dear Folks,
-
- Various posts have been made concerning spreadsheets on the NeXT.
- I posted a short note (as did one of our customers, without prompting)
- mentioning that you can run the Macintosh version of Excel under Executor,
- our Macintosh emulator for the NeXT.
-
- Since then, two posts have appeared that deserve a responce.
-
- David Gursky wrote:
-
- Clifford's response misses my point. I know I can use Executor
- to run Excel, but if a user can run Excel, they will not switch
- to Athena Design's Mesa, Appsoft's Solution, Lotus' Improv, or
- Informix's Wingz. Athena Design, Appsoft, Lotus, and Informix all
- realize that backwards compatibility to competiting products is an
- effective method of winning new sales, because the user will not
- loose access to any of the information they have generated. All
- I'm saying is that the specific set of formats supported needs to
- be expanded to include Excel (both Mac and PC versions.)
-
- and David Pollak,
- author of Mesa, a spreadsheet that competes with Excel, wrote:
-
- I think that Executor is a fine product and a cool concept,
- but I do not view it as a long term solution. It is a way of
- bridging the software gap that still exists on the NeXT. There is
- no good word processor (I think that MS Word 4.0 is *GREAT*) on
- the NeXT. I was holding my breath for Pages and PasteUp, but I'd
- now place even money that Appsoft Write! will be out before either
- of the other two products (I wonder if the folks at Appsoft will
- trade a copy of Write! for a copy of Mesa :-))
-
- Nevertheless, Executor will never offer what I bought my NeXT
- for: NeXTSTEP applications that are cool, interoperate (i.e.,
- distributed objects), and look and feel right. The Mac is almost
- 10 year old technology and looks it. NeXTSTEP is the leading
- technology and I want my NeXTSTEP applications. I'm hoping to make
- Mesa so cool that people will go "how did I ever use anything as
- clunky as Excel?" like they are now saying "How did I ever use
- anything as clucky as 1-2-3?" after seeing Mesa.
-
- Cliff is doing a great service to the community, but if I simply
- wanted to run Mac applications, I'd go out and by a Quadra.
-
- I don't think I missed David Gursky's point, but perhaps in my
- desire to make my last post brief (anyone who reads my posts knows
- what an exception that was), I didn't make *my* point clear. If
- you're in the market for a Spreadsheet, investigate *all* of the
- currently, and even the soon to be expected, options. That includes
- running Excel under Executor. Since David G's post was aimed at
- Spreadsheet authors, my point could be reworded to consider the
- *entire* competition; don't lightly dismiss people who run Excel
- under Executor.
-
- I'm not going to do a feature for feature comparison between Excel
- under Executor and Mesa, Wings and Improv; but I do encourage
- everyone to examine *all* sides before making a decision.
-
- Executor currently offers what most people bought their NeXT for:
- productivity, as well as something that many people may not have
- bought their NeXT for: compatibility. Executor is cool, by David
- Pollack's own admission, does interoperate (allows RTF cut and
- paste, supports Services) and, if you're coming from a Macintosh
- background, most certainly "look(s) and feel(s) right". I agree
- that David P. and Athena should be concentrating on making their
- product be so good as to generate spontaneous exclamations of "How
- could I have used anything else?", but that is exactly what
- Microsoft has been doing with Excel. Cliff and ARDI's job is to
- blur the boundaries, so *you* can make *your* choice.
-
- If you've watched what we've done with Executor so far, you know
- what you can expect in the future. Even though I'm a person of
- principle, I'm always afraid that by acting according to principle,
- I'll dismiss something good without trying it. If you're opposed to
- Executor "on principle", I hope you'll check it out. It could be
- the tool that you need.
-
- Sincerely,
-
-
- Cliff[ord T. Matthews] ctm@ardi.com or
- iclone!ctm@unmvax.cs.unm.edu President and Founder
- Abacus R&D, Inc.
-