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- From: byer@adobe.com (Scott Byer)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
- Subject: Re: NT: please define vapor.
- Message-ID: <1992Sep9.203008.9838@adobe.com>
- Date: 9 Sep 92 20:30:08 GMT
- References: <1992Sep09.164238.2487@microsoft.com>
- Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
- Reply-To: byer@adobe.com (Scott Byer)
- Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
- Lines: 63
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- Jeff Henshaw writes
-
- > Everyone wants their familiar OS and UI.
-
- Naw, I think most want a UI that they can deal with. It's a lot looser
- definition, because most people won't want to go back to the Windows
- UI once they try NeXTSTEP or Motif or OpenLook. A few will.
-
- > Please refrain, though, because I like NeXTSTEP, too, though there
- > are 10,000,000 people who might think differently out there.
-
- Keep the numbers games out of here. 10M is such a gross overinflation
- that even MicroSoft admits it. And many (not all, but most) who
- currently use Windows only do so because there is no other UI choice
- currently available. That changes very quickly over the next few
- months.
-
- > First of all, you *really* need to define what "vapor" is if you're
- > going to reference products in relation to it. If you mean that
- > "vapor" is a product that has been announced, but is not yet being
- > distributed to the general public in a release form, then yes (listen
- > to the Microsoft employee say this :-), NT is vapor.
-
- Yup. Exactly. Because who you quoted (you didn't attribute the quote,
- fix your news poster please :-) said that you can't tell features and
- how well they work until release - and that is true. And as long as
- something is vapor, it *is* the greatest, best, fastest, whatever the
- FUD Marketeers can make it out to be. To see what something *really*
- is takes a release version. OS/2 2.0 was a dog speed-wise until it's
- final release, for example, and buggy as hell. NS3.0PR1 was a dog,
- PR2 was much better, and the release is faster yet. And the difference
- in bugginess is enourmous. An annouced but not-yet-shipping *product*
- (not developers version) is vapor for the purpose of trying to peer
- through the marketing fog and see 'what the heck is this thing?'.
-
- Now, NT is going to be a good operating system. Anyone that doesn't
- think that better wake up now. In a way, that's good news. It's time
- a mass-market OS with a reasonable amount of power was available to
- mass-market PCs. And NT is going to be one of those, along with NS486
- and DESTiny.
-
- It's just sad that a good operating system will be handicapped with
- such a bad UI as Windows. If I'm mistaken in that, please let me know
- what will be used instead - I'd be very happy to hear it.
-
- But what is also true is that it *won't* be the end-all-be-all of PC
- OSs. It's also true that it would be more damaging to the PC indutry
- than not the have one dominant OS anymore - having DOS/Windows as the
- only significant choice has handicapped the PCs to the point where it
- is the last place to find new, wonderful UI features. Which is
- backwards, because such a large installed machine base should be able
- to support research into new UI features.
-
- Instead, all those UI features that make life easily are hidden away
- in that great little secret known as NeXTSTEP. Hopefully, NS486 will
- help us bring all that great functionality out of the closet.
-
- --
- Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com
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