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- From: fj05+@andrew.cmu.edu (Faisal Nameer Jawdat)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
- Subject: Re: RE-Win/NT
- Message-ID: <keev_bC00WB78Xif8m@andrew.cmu.edu>
- Date: 7 Sep 92 11:51:03 GMT
- Article-I.D.: andrew.keev_bC00WB78Xif8m
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- <Bu7LH9.4ML@acsu.buffalo.edu>
- Organization: Sophomore, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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- In-Reply-To: <Bu7LH9.4ML@acsu.buffalo.edu>
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- triantos@acsu.buffalo.edu (Nick B Triantos) writes:
-
- > really is. With pre-fetching and other niceties that the MC680x0's
- > offer, I have not seen a 33MHz '486 _PERFORM_ as fast as my Mac. The
- > '486 machines spend too much of their processing time dealing with a
- > ridiculously out of date OS called DOS, and then a DOS program which
- > pretends to offer a GUI for PCs called Windows.
-
- this assumes that you are dealing with dos/windows, and not a modern
- os like os/2 2.0, or when it arrives NT - both of these are 32 bit,
- preemptive multitasking, protected mode operating systems, and have
- standardized graphics functions, standardized printing (ala mac), and
- only require a printer driver and a graphics driver for the os (just
- like the mac) - not one for each piece of software
- and a pc with an accelerated graphics card such as the ATI/Ultra will
- display more colors faster and in higher resolution than a mac without
- additional video card, while still costing less than a mac whithout
- additional video hardware...
-
- > (2) The people who buy Macs spend money for the quality components which
- > Apple uses, much like those expensive IBM brand PCs. They cost more,
- > but everything is supposed to be compatible, and there are less
-
- actually, most lower end models these days (such as ZEOS, the new
- Compaq's, Dells, Gateway (except that stupid modem)) are very high
- quality at fairly low cost - the margin has gotten so low that all the
- serious companies have to compete on quality anyway - IBM only sells
- because of their name - if anything, their systems are less standard,
- and not as fast (even if MCA is fantastic)
-
- > could have bought some clone. I wanted a good computer, where a word
- > processor doesn't include 4 disks of printer drivers, the File menu
- > always has Save in the same place, and I don't need to own a single
- > piece of equipment or software from the ultimate megacorporation for
- > being unresponsive to industry guidelines, MicroSloth.
-
- the printer drivers meet the os - you only need one - the 4 disk
- problem is a relic of dos - which is dying faster than anyone thought
- it would
- the file menu's in os/2, windows, and NT all have a Save command just
- like the mac - it's CUA (common user access?)
- as for Microsoft... well that's the reason I have a macIIci 8/230
- instead of a 486/50 8/340 with a caching scsi controller, an
- accerarated graphics card, etc - I'd rather use os/2 today, but don't
- want to have to use NT tomorrow if that becomes the standard...
-
- And one final point - the current specs for NT seem to be at least:
- 486/33
- 8 megs ram
- 100 meg hd
-
- but will probably be much higher to be usefull when the things come
- out
- 486/50 EISA
- 16 megs ram
- 400 meg disk seem more ball park, when you consider all the
- capabilites promised for the thing (namely all the networking foo,
- windows hooks, dos hooks, etc...)
-