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- Subject: Re: MACS COST TOO MUCH (NOT!)
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- From: ajross@husc10.harvard.edu (Andrew Ross)
- Date: 8 Sep 92 20:49:59 GMT
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- ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
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- >In <92252.141443ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET> Michael Bode writes:
-
- >>No it doesn`t and yes it does. The name of the diskette is not A: it is a name
- >>of up to 11 characters that is almost never used. At least I don`t know anyone
- >>who gives names to his floppies (except mac users exchanging disks with PC`s).
-
- >I don't see what exchanging disks with PCs has to do with naming disks.
- >Maybe you think Mac users are just doing this to annoy you. I name all
- >my floppies *except* the ones I exchange with PCs. It makes it easier
- >to know what's on them. I bet most other Mac users do the same thing,
- >even if they never exchange disks with PCs at all.
-
- >You see, the Macintosh is smart enough that it actually knows what
- >floppy disk is in the drive at any given time. On the PC, if you're
- >saving your work on a certain disk, then remove that disk to do some
- >other task, and forget to change disks back before you save your work
- >again, you may end up saving your latest version on the wrong disk
- >without ever knowing it. Several days later, when you insert the disk
- >you *thought* you'd saved it on, you find that your latest work just
- >isn't there. That won't happen on the Mac because you can see the name
- >of the disk you're saving it to.
-
- OK fine, lets all go out and buy Mac's 'cause you can name disks. Back
- when floppies were king, this was a MAJOR advantage; but now... Well,
- hands up people, how many of you use your floppies more than once a week?
- How many use them for anything but backup and software installation? Of
- those of you who do use them, how many are not planning on upgrading to a
- better file exchange format in the near future? At least where I am,
- floppies are dead.
-
-
- >>A: is the name of the DRIVE and that can be changed to almost everything.
-
- >Almost anything? Well, in English, there are lots of things that you
- >can't fit into 11 characters. Like "Price Carl Wayne's floppy." And I
- >know for damn sure that there are lots of things in German that you
- >can't fit into 11 characters. And those 11 characters can't include
- >spaces, mixed cases, or punctation marks like in this example. At least,
- >not in DOS or MS Windows. Maybe this is different in OS2, but even if it
- >is, I'll bet that those DOS and Windows programs you're running under OS2
- >will go ballistic if you type in file name like "Michael Bode's New File".
-
- No, No, No. When he said 11 Characters, that is the limit for the DOS
- name, which is stored on the media. The DRIVE object in OS/2's WPS can
- be given any name you want. You misunderstood.
-
-
- >>Just ALT-click on the disk icon title and type something you like. That
- >>only works in WPS but in a command line window nobody would like to use
- >>a drive name like "Price Carl Wayne`s floppy"
-
- >So, if WPS is great, why do you need a command-line window? For that
- >matter, if WPS is so great (and intuitive), why don't you call it by
- >a real name, instead of yet another TLA (three-letter acronym)?
-
- Because (and I still can't see why you won't admit this) there are times
- where a command line interface is just plain easier than a graphical one.
- Like being able to run over your command line and run an applet or
- somesuch just buy typing it's name. Clicking through folders typically
- takes much more time than typing "clock", or "calc". Also, some more
- complex shell operations are difficult or immpossible with a GUI. You'd
- have to write a program to perform what would be a single line command in
- a CLI. By the way, WPS *IS* a real name. It stands for WorkPlace Shell.
- Look carefully, each of these words is one syllable. The real name has
- even fewer syllables than the acronym ("W" is three, how inefficient),
- thus is easier to say. WPS, however, is easier to type, thus has become
- the standard. For general info: WPS should ALWAYS be pronounced
- WorkPlace Shell. Are you happy now that you know it's got a name?
-
-
- Andy Ross
- ajross@husc.harvard.edu
-
-