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- From: 2034bang@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Steve Bang)
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- Subject: Re: Pro-Cite info?
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- Date: 9 Sep 92 04:49:29 GMT
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- In article <1992Sep4.153251.25010@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> brandy@tramp.Colorado.EDU (BRANDAUER CARL M) writes:
-
- >I have been using ProCite for just a month or so and think that it is quite
- >powerful and fast. However, like all powerful tools, it takes some time to
- >learn, something not helped by some strange organization of the screen
- >menus and by incomplete information in the otherwise excellent manual.
-
- >The organization of the screen menus strikes me a strange because the
- >numerous option screens are accessed from different menus. Thus, fonts,
- >point sizes and the like are changed in a 'Configuration' screen accessed
- >from the 'File' menu, what parts of a bibliographic entry are printed,
- >other stylistic options from various screens gotten at through the
- >'Bibliopgraphy' menu. An approach such as the multiple choice screen used
- >in Word 5 would be very nice.
-
- >Be aware that your friendly school computer school may not have the best
- >price for ProCite. After paying $300+ here I found that one of the big
- >mail order places (Mac Zone??) was asking $198.
-
- Carl is correct in his comments--Pro-Cite is powerful and fast (and
- expensive at most sites). But after having used Pro-Cite for the Mac
- for over two years and having thousands of hours experience working on
- a library reference/information desk, I've learned that no matter how
- powerful a computer tool is the factor that matters the most is ease
- of use. In this area (and overall cost), Personal Bibliographic
- Software has a lot to learn. Pro-Cite is a great bibliographic program
- for high-end users, bibliographers and librarians, that will use it daily
- in the construction of large bibliographies. Although it offers more
- powerful search capabilities and other advanced features, the overwhelming
- majority of bibliographic database users are researchers and writers that
- are focused on the content of their writing rather than the power of their
- personal bibliographic database manager. As noted by Carl, the menu
- is complex and learning how to use Pro-Cite effectively requires a large
- investment of time. Their is an alternative--EndNote.
-
- Niles & Associates (developers of EndNote, EndNote Plus, and EndLink)
- have actively pursued the academic Macintosh community, advertising
- heavily in major Mac magazines, offering Mac-Info (an admirable effort
- to make the deluge of Mac information available for easy access) and
- following the interests of the Mac users more closely than any of their
- competitors. As a result, EndNote and EndNote Plus have managed to
- capture the majority of the market. This came about not as a result
- of slick marketing, but the concerted effort of a small software developer
- to "pay attention to the user." Avi Rappoport (Manager of Software
- Development at Niles) has been fairly active (when not too busy) in
- the Internet Mac newsgroups and has responded quickly to questions
- about their products.
-
- Two examples of the responsiveness of Niles & Associates to Mac users
- are:
-
- 1) EndNote Plus 1.2 includes a Word 5 Plug-In Module which allows
- Word users to access EndNote from Word's Tools Menu. With this
- PIM you can paste a citation directly where you have located the
- insertion cursor. Then, when you are finished with your paper,
- you can use the PIM to format the bibliography at the end of your
- Word document automatically in the punctuation style that you have
- chosen.
-
- 2) Recently, the University of California's online catalog, MELVYL,
- began offering faculty, staff, and students with dial-up access
- and a password a new downloading format for displaying citations
- to journal articles in a parsed format (i.e., the individual
- elements of a citation, such as author, title, journal, volume,
- issue, pages, etc., are separated into individual fields). This
- "Tags" format allows UC users a convenient way to import citations
- into their personal bibliographic database managers, assuming that
- the application supports this format.
-
- Personal Bibliographic Software and Niles & Associates found
- out about this new format at the same time (the UC's Division of
- Library Automation sent out this information to the interested
- software developers). Yet, although PBS has a much larger staff,
- Niles responded the quickest and least expensively to their EndNote
- users. In order to import records downloaded with the MELVYL "tags"
- format, EndNote users need only to get a FREE copy of Niles' MELVYL
- TagLink, drop it into their EndNote Folder, open a new database,
- choose Import from the File menu, select the capture file and the
- TagLinks option, and the records will be imported into their new
- database. Pro-Cite users will probably have to wait much longer
- for a solution and the solution promised so far is not likely to
- be free. Pro-Cite users on the PC have to buy a copy of the Dialog
- Biblio-Link (lists for $195, I think), customize the import set-up,
- and use a much more complex means of achieving the same result. Mac
- Pro-Cite users will just have to wait--the Mac Dialog Biblio-Link
- cannot currently import the MELVYL "tags" format.
-
- OK, so if I haven't convinced you yet that you should seriously
- consider EndNote, download a copy of the EndNote 1.2 demo program
- available for anonymous FTP in the demo directory of the info-mac
- archives at sumex.stanford.edu. Join the new ENDNOTE List (the
- EndNote/EndLink Users Forum) and ask any questions you may have
- about using EndNote. [To join, send an e-mail message to
- listserv@ucsbvm.bitnet, leaving the subject blank, and typing
- the following as your message: "subscribe endnote yourname". You
- will be automatically added to the e-mail list and receive basic
- listserv commands.]
-
- Finally, if you are a UC faculty, staff, or student, don't hesitate
- to ask me for a copy of ht MELVYL TagLink. I will be uploading it
- shortly to sumex.stanford.edu. If you don't know about the new
- MELVYL "tags" format for Current Contents (now available) and
- soon the other MELVYL citation databases, including the Newspaper
- Abstracts Database, the Computer Articles Database, and the i
- Magazine Articles Database.
-
- Steve
- President, EndNote Users Group
-
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