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- From: markg@county.lmt.mn.org (Mark Gilbert)
- Subject: Re: Why shouldn't I buy Cyrix
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- Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 03:18:46 GMT
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- In article <92252.163135I18BC@CUNYVM.BITNET> I18BC@CUNYVM.BITNET (Spartacus At Cuny) writes:
- >From: I18BC@CUNYVM.BITNET (Spartacus At Cuny)
- >Subject: Re: Why shouldn't I buy Cyrix
- >Date: 8 Sep 92 20:31:35 GMT
-
- >In article <Bu9urG.7zu@nntp-sc.Intel.COM>, dmccart@gomez.intel.com (D. J.
- >McCarthy) says:
- >>
- >>The following are just my opinions and not Intel's.
- >>
- >>Daniel Moran (daniel.moran@pcb.batpad.lgb.ca.us) wrote:
- >>> jas37876@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (John A. Slagel) writes:
- >>>> I can, all things considered, upgrade my non-coprocessed 386-33,
- >>>> to the Cyrix 486-33 for ~$150.
- >>>> Is there problems with this chip ??
- >>> Ditto on that request. I'm extremely interested in this chip. My
- >>> understanding is that it does not have an on-board math coprocessor; but
- >>> I'm more interested in the cache and pipelining anyway. I'm running a
- >>> clone motherboard with a very recent AMI BIOS. Any comments? Anyone
- >>> who's done this upgrade?
- >>
- >>
- >>From what I've read, the Cyrix chip:
- >>
- >>1) Has a hardware multiplier instead of a full-blown math co-processor
- >>2) Has a 1K cache instead of the 8K on an Intel 486
- >>3) Is pin-compatible with Intel 386's, although you can't just pop out your
- >> i386 and plop in the Cyrix chip; you will have to replace at least the
- >> BIOS and probably the motherboard too.
- >>
-
- > Yikes! A friend from school was thinking of upgrading his
- >Opti 386-25DX motherboard bought last November with the
- >Cyrix 486DLC chips. He's running OS/2 on his machine right now.
- >Would anyone know if Cyrix offers a money back guarantee?
- >-------
- >------------------------------+ All The Best,
- >Reply To: |
- > | Edward Galarza,
- > I18BC@CunyVM.Cuny.Edu | Brooklyn College Of The
- > I18BC@CunyVM.BitNet | City University Of New York
- >------------------------------+ "Que viva el OS/2!"
- >New accounts above 8-)
-
- Here is some information about the chip from the Microprocessor Report. The
- Cyrix 486DLC does not include any on-chip floating point hardware. It does
- feature a hardware integer multiply, which gives it a faster integer
- multiply than even the 486DX. The Cyrix instruction pipeline is five stages
- and very simliar to the Intel 486. The Cyrix design does not include a
- seperate address computation ALU, which makes some instructions take one
- cycle longer than an Intel 486, but most other instructions take the same
- number of cycles. The on-chip cache is 1K, and it suffers slightly because
- of the 386DX pinout. Intel added some cache control signals to the 486
- pinout, some of which can be provided to the 486DLC in specially modified
- or re-designed systems.
-
- The Microprocessor Report reported SYSmark92 benchmarks showing the Cyrix
- 486DLC to be about 10% slower than the Intel 486SX at the same clock speed.
- SYSmark92 is a good benchmark of overall system speed, so it should be
- respresentative of performance on real-world applications.
-
- Cyrix will also offer 33 MHz and 40 MHz versions of the 486DLC, which may
- give them a competitive advantage relative to the 486SX. Intel does not
- offer fast clock speed versions of the 486SX to protect the higher margins
- they achieve on 486DX sales.
-
- Cyrix is marketing the 486DLC with their 387 replacement, which is somewhat
- faster than Intel's 387. They can advertise a 486DLC + floating point
- against a 486DX. Of course the floating point performance is somewhat
- slower than the 486DX's on-chip FPU, but the price is dramatically lower.
- Intel charges a huge premium for the 486DX and the 487SX (what the market
- will bear), so the much lower incremental cost to add some kind of floating
- point to the 486DLC may be another advantage for Cyrix.
-
- The Microprocessor Report says that the chip can be used to upgrade existing
- systems, but they do not elaborate on the compatability issue.
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- Mark Gilbert
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