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- From: Rick.Schryvers@psycho.fidonet.org (Rick Schryvers)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
- Subject: Re: ISA cards in an EISA
- Message-ID: <28661.2AB387F4@psycho.fidonet.org>
- Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 22:41:04 EDT
- Organization: Psycho: The Usenet<->Fidonet Gateway of St. Pete Florida
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- To: adam@microware.com (Adam Goldberg)
- On 09-07-92 Adam Goldberg wrote to All...
-
- AG> dab@ubitrex.mb.ca (Daniel Boulet) writes:
- AG> >I'm about to purchase an EISA bus system. I've heard that there are
- AG> some
- AG> >problems that one can encounter if ISA cards are used in an EISA
- AG> system.
- AG>
- AG> >What sort of problems could I run into? I'm definitely intending to
- AG> purchase
- AG> >an EISA disk controller. I was planning on getting ISA cards for the
- AG> rest
- AG> >(video, serial ports, floppies).
- AG>
- AG> Here's the rub: (Someone correct me if I'm wrong...)
- AG>
- AG> An EISA bus runs at 16MHz, but an ISA bus runs (usually) at 8 or 10
- AG> MHz.
- AG> When you plug an ISA card into an EISA bus, the EISA bus sees the ISA
- AG> card and lowers it's speed to 8MHz. Thereby decreasing throughput
- AG> because of the lower clock speed.
- AG>
- AG> The solution is to buy a EISA machine that has floppy & parallel &
- AG> serial ports on the MB (or on an EISA card).
- AG>
- AG> Can someone in the know confirm/deny this?
- AG>
- I can neither confirm nor deny this, however, let me state this, at my
- place of employment we currently have 2 eisa fileservers with both isa and eisa
- ethernet cards in them. We have both eisa and ISA cards in them. When I built
- these machines, I tested them with and without ISA cards in them. (The mother-
- boards have onboard video, parallel and serial support). I say no noticable
- difference in effective thoughput in any of my tests. By this I mean that under
- normal dos tests utilizing checkit, degredation was less than 2% overall through
- put. Under network tests utilizing Perform as well as INFOPLUS and Checkit, the
- degredation was less than 5%. However, let me explain that the only isa cards
- being used were network cards. The only EISA cards were also network cards.
- These were the NE2000 and NE3200 respectivly.
- Also, let me introduce another question, that maybe someone else might have the
- answer to, I'm not sure that all ISA cards run at 8 or 10 mhz. The ones that
- I am not sure of are the busmastering cards. We tried an isa busmastering card
- and an EISA busmastering card. While there was considerable difference as the eisa
- card is a 32bit card and the isa busmaster is only 16bit, I really don't know if
- it attributed to actual system degradation other than the slowness of the bus on the
- ISA area. I don't believe that the entire bus slows down for the isa card.
-
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