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- From: cupples@IASTATE.EDU (Robert L Cupples)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
- Subject: Re: Using Imake WITHOUT the mit Source Tree
- Keywords: public domain bundles
- Message-ID: <1992Sep9.180822@IASTATE.EDU>
- Date: 9 Sep 92 23:08:22 GMT
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- Reply-To: cupples@IASTATE.EDU (Robert L Cupples)
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- Someone writes:
-
- > >And while I am on the subject: PLEASE INCLUDE AN UNSUPPORTED
- > >HUGE UNOFFICIAL EMACS (PREFERABLY 19) WITH HP-UX 9.0. Darryl Okahata,
- > >Andy Norman and others at HP have produced one of the most useful
- > >Emacses and in day and age I can't imagine a workstation without it.
- > >Even NeXT comes with Emacs and TeX installed!
-
- Someone else writes:
-
- > Actually, I care A Lot Less about whether HP "officially supports"
- > Imake and the Athena X libraries and the GNU stuff (e.g. GNU Emacs)
- > than whether they SHIP IT WITH STANDARD HP-UX. I have better things
- > to do with my time than ftp the X11 stuff from export.lcs.mit.edu and
- > the GNU stuff from prep.ai.mit.edu and build it locally. The whole
- > reason I buy HP-UX is to get HP to build it and package it FOR ME.
- >
- > As far as I'm concerned, HP could put it all under /usr/contrib and
- > the HP lawyer types (which seem to have run completely amok) can add
- > suitable disclaimers about the stuff under /usr/contrib not being
- > supported --- AS LONG AS THE STUFF WORKS. If HP Corvallis can build
- > it and supply it to the net, there is no reason that the HP-UX folks
- > can't just distribute it and be A Good Vendor.
-
- A third person writes:
-
- > Now hold on just a second! Not everyone wants or needs GNU EMACS!!
- > On our systems we decided that JOVE satisfies our needs at a much
- > lower cost in system resources. And we have no use for TeX, either.
- > You don't speak for all users...
-
- > I totally agree that imake should be distributed and pre-configured with
- > HP-UX, but let's not get carried away with the bundling thing...
-
- Our 730 has the CD rom drive to load updates with /etc/update.
- I don't know what fraction of 700 series machines have CD drives, but
- I don't think it would be that much harder to include an extra CD when
- the machines are shipped to have all the GNU stuff and other goodies for
- those who want them. /etc/update is easy to use and it wouldn't waste
- space in /usr/contrib for those who don't want them.
-