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- From: andy@ice.stx.com (Andy Moore)
- Subject: Re: monitor for HP730 HP-UX8.07
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- References: <1722@prlhp1.prl.philips.co.uk> <16600018@hprpcd.rose.hp.com>
- Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:15:06 GMT
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- rexb@hprpcd.rose.hp.com (Rex Backman) writes:
-
- }You may wish to consider looking at GlancePlus/UX instead of Monitor. Monitor
- }is an unsupported product while GlancePlus is a supported product. Yes, you
- }would have to pay money for GlancePlus but you get a better product with
- }continuing support...
-
- Speaking of "the power of GlancePlus," we have it (bought it!) and can't use
- it because it wants to go through and mount every single optical disk in our
- jukebox... Yeah, I know, call ResponseLine... I'd rather have my teeth
- drilled... But I suppose we forfeit our right to complain since we haven't
- given HP an opportunity to fix it (send us Yet Another Patch)...
-
- But even with all that aside, I wasn't impressed with GlancePlus; just a
- slightly nicer front-end. (Yes, yes, I know it provides more accurate
- information, so what?) And what gets me most, it costs a *LOT* for the
- 800 series machines (even though our 730 is 10x faster than our 835)...
-
- Actually, I've yet to find any _single_ performance monitoring tool that
- sums it all up well: I use monitor, yamm, and top, each for different
- strengths...
-
- As for the bundling question, I admit I prefer how HP does it. Bundle or
- make available a minimal tool (monitor, vanilla C compiler, etc.) and then
- sell separately the full-blown product (GlancePlus, C development system).
- Although I think the vanilla C compiler should be ANSI, and I think monitor
- should be distributed with HP-UX, not handed under the table only when
- specifically asked for... HP's disclaimers about unsupported products
- are fine; I then know and accept the risks and limitations...
-
- All my own opinion, of course; your swappage may vary... :-)
-
- }Rex Backman
- }Performance Technology Center
- }Software Technology Division
- }Hewlett-Packard Co.
- }Roseville, Calif. USA
- }rex@hpptc16.rose.hp.com
-
- Well, that recommendation was totally unbiased, wasn't it? ;-) ;-) ;-)
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